linux-kernel - Re: On community influencing (was Re: [PATCH v8 2/2] rust: add dma coherent allocator abstraction.)

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Message-ID: <20250220163747.GA69996@nvidia.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2025 12:37:47 -0400
From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...dia.com>
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Subject: Re: On community influencing (was Re: [PATCH v8 2/2] rust: add dma
 coherent allocator abstraction.)

On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 05:24:01PM +0100, Simona Vetter wrote:
> Better analogy aside, I fundamentally disagree with understanding
> maintainership as a gatekeeper role that exists to keep the chaos out. My
> goal is to help build a community where people enjoy collaborating, and
> then gtfo so I don't hinder them. I think the talk I linked above is
> holding up quite well even years later, but the last part really embodies
> that idea, so let me just quote that:
> 
>     Be a Steward, Not a Lord
> 
>     I think one of key advantages of open source is that people stick
>     around for a very long time. Even when they switch jobs or move
>     around. Maybe the usual “for life” qualifier isn’t really a great
>     choice, since it sounds more like a mandatory sentence than something
>     done by choice. What I object to is the “dictator” part, since if your
>     goal is to grow a great community and maybe reach world domination,
>     then you as the maintainer need to serve that community. And not that
>     the community serves you.

+1

I agree and try, as best I can, to embody this.

Jason