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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 12:26:23 +0000
From: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@....com>
To: Kevin Brodsky <kevin.brodsky@....com>,
 Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>, Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>,
 Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@...een.com>,
 Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
 Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@...il.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
 David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>,
 "Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@...radead.org>,
 Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
 Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@....com>,
 Alexandre Ghiti <alexghiti@...osinc.com>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org, linux-mm@...ck.org,
 linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 07/14] arm64/mm: Avoid barriers for invalid or
 userspace mappings

On 20/02/2025 16:54, Kevin Brodsky wrote:
> On 17/02/2025 15:07, Ryan Roberts wrote:
>> __set_pte_complete(), set_pmd(), set_pud(), set_p4d() and set_pgd() are
> 
> Nit: it would be more accurate to say __set_pte() instead of
> __set_pte_complete(), as it is the former that actually writes the PTE
> (and then issues barriers).

Yeah, fair enough. Will fix in the next version.

> 
>> used to write entries into pgtables. And they issue barriers (currently
>> dsb and isb) to ensure that the written values are observed by the table
>> walker prior to any program-order-future memory access to the mapped
>> location.
>>
>> Over the years some of these functions have received optimizations: In
>> particular, commit 7f0b1bf04511 ("arm64: Fix barriers used for page
>> table modifications") made it so that the barriers were only emitted for
>> valid-kernel mappings for set_pte() (now __set_pte_complete()). And
>> commit 0795edaf3f1f ("arm64: pgtable: Implement p[mu]d_valid() and check
>> in set_p[mu]d()") made it so that set_pmd()/set_pud() only emitted the
>> barriers for valid mappings. set_p4d()/set_pgd() continue to emit the
>> barriers unconditionally.
>>
>> This is all very confusing to the casual observer; surely the rules
>> should be invariant to the level? Let's change this so that every level
>> consistently emits the barriers only when setting valid, non-user
>> entries (both table and leaf).
>>
>> It seems obvious that if it is ok to elide barriers all but valid kernel
>> mappings at pte level, it must also be ok to do this for leaf entries at
>> other levels: If setting an entry to invalid, a tlb maintenance
>> operation must surely follow to synchronise the TLB and this contains
>> the required barriers. If setting a valid user mapping, the previous
>> mapping must have been invalid and there must have been a TLB
>> maintenance operation (complete with barriers) to honour
>> break-before-make. So the worst that can happen is we take an extra
>> fault (which will imply the DSB + ISB) and conclude that there is
>> nothing to do. These are the arguments for doing this optimization at
>> pte level and they also apply to leaf mappings at other levels.
>>
>> For table entries, the same arguments hold: If unsetting a table entry,
>> a TLB is required and this will emit the required barriers. If setting a
> 
> s/TLB/TLB maintenance/
> 
>> table entry, the previous value must have been invalid and the table
>> walker must already be able to observe that. Additionally the contents
>> of the pgtable being pointed to in the newly set entry must be visible
>> before the entry is written and this is enforced via smp_wmb() (dmb) in
>> the pgtable allocation functions and in __split_huge_pmd_locked(). But
>> this last part could never have been enforced by the barriers in
>> set_pXd() because they occur after updating the entry. So ultimately,
>> the wost that can happen by eliding these barriers for user table
> 
> s/wost/worst/
> 
> - Kevin
> 
>> entries is an extra fault.
>>
>> [...]
> 

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