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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2025 14:31:15 -0800
From: Jeff Xu <jeffxu@...omium.org>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@...cle.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 7/7] mseal, system mappings: update mseal.rst

On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 10:07 PM Lorenzo Stoakes
<lorenzo.stoakes@...cle.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 05:45:13PM +0000, jeffxu@...omium.org wrote:
> > From: Jeff Xu <jeffxu@...omium.org>
> >
> > Update memory sealing documentation to include details about system
> > mappings.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Jeff Xu <jeffxu@...omium.org>
> > ---
> >  Documentation/userspace-api/mseal.rst | 7 +++++++
> >  1 file changed, 7 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/Documentation/userspace-api/mseal.rst b/Documentation/userspace-api/mseal.rst
> > index 41102f74c5e2..10147281bf2d 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/userspace-api/mseal.rst
> > +++ b/Documentation/userspace-api/mseal.rst
> > @@ -130,6 +130,13 @@ Use cases
> >
> >  - Chrome browser: protect some security sensitive data structures.
> >
> > +- System mappings:
> > +  If supported by an architecture (via CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MSEAL_SYSTEM_MAPPINGS),
> > +  the CONFIG_MSEAL_SYSTEM_MAPPINGS seals system mappings, e.g. vdso, vvar,
> > +  uprobes, sigpage, vectors, etc. CHECKPOINT_RESTORE, UML, gVisor, rr are
> > +  known to relocate or unmap system mapping, therefore this config can't be
> > +  enabled universally.
>
> Thanks for adding this.
>
> Similar comments to the Kconfig update - you are listing features that do not
> exist yet, please just list what you're doing, specifically, and avoid the vague
> 'etc.', we don't need to be vague.
>
OK, I will remove etc and list the known mappings here.

> As per the Kconfig comment - you need to be a lot more clear, I think you're
> duplicating the text from there to here, so again I suggest something like:
>
> WARNING: This feature breaks programs which rely on relocating or
>          unmapping system mappings.
>
>          Known broken software at the time of writing includes
>          CHECKPOINT_RESTORE, UML, gVisor and rr.
>
Sure.

> You also seem to be writing very little here, it's a documentation page, you can
> be as verbose as you like :)
>
> You really need to add some more detail here in general - you aren't explaining
> why people would want to enable this, what you're mitigating, etc. from that you
> explain _why_ it doesn't work for some things.
>
The mseal.rst already includes below regarding the protection/mitigation.





> You're also not mentioning architectural limitations here, for instance that you
> can only do this on arches that don't require VDSO relocation and listing
> known-good arches.
>
> This is a documentation file, you can go wild :) the more information here the
> better.
>
> WARNING
> =======
>
> > +
> >  When not to use mseal
> >  =====================
> >  Applications can apply sealing to any virtual memory region from userspace,
> > --
> > 2.48.1.601.g30ceb7b040-goog
> >

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