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Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 17:50:36 +0000
From: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@....com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 22/23] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to list
 assignment states of all the groups

Hi,

On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 12:39:04PM +0000, Dave Martin wrote:
> Hi Tony,
> 
> On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 05:23:06PM +0000, Luck, Tony wrote:
> > > It has just occurred to be that ftrace has large, multi-line text files
> > > in sysfs, so I'll try to find out how they handle that there.  Maybe
> > > there is some infrastructure we can re-use.
> > 
> > Resctrl was built on top of "kernfs" because that was a simple base
> > that met needs at the time.
> > 
> > Do we need to look at either extending capabilities of kernfs? Or
> > move to sysfs?
> > 
> > -Tony
> 
> I took a look at what ftrace does: it basically rolls its own buffering
> implementation, sufficient for its needs.
> 
> The ftrace code is internal and not trivial to pick up and plonk into
> resctrl.  We also have another possible requirement that ftrace doesn't
> have (whole-file atomicity).  But ftrace's example at least confirms
> that there is probably no off-the-shelf implementation for this in the
> kernel.

[...]

After having spent a bit of time looking into this, I think we are probably
OK, at least for reading these files.

seq_file will loop over the file's show() callback, growing the seq_file
buffer until show() can run without overrunning the buffer.

This means that the show() callback receives a buffer that is magically big
enough, but there may be some "speculative" calls whose output never goes
to userspace.  Once seq_file has the data, it deals with the userspace-
facing I/O buffering internally, so we shouldn't have to worry about that.

I'll try to hack up a test next week to confirm that this works.

The seq_file approach appears sound, but may be inefficient if the initial
guess at the buffer size (= PAGE_SIZE) is frequently too small.  (There is
single_open_size() though, which allows the buffer to be preallocated with
a specified size and may be useful.)


seq_file doesn't help with the write side at all, but I think we agreed
that handling large file writes properly is less urgent.

Cheers
---Dave

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