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Message-ID: <ab9e32b2-2574-48d4-bc13-8e752a194c43@blackwall.org>
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 13:07:19 +0200
From: Nikolay Aleksandrov <razor@...ckwall.org>
To: Cosmin Ratiu <cratiu@...dia.com>,
 "liuhangbin@...il.com" <liuhangbin@...il.com>
Cc: "andrew+netdev@...n.ch" <andrew+netdev@...n.ch>,
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 Jianbo Liu <jianbol@...dia.com>, "pabeni@...hat.com" <pabeni@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv3 net 1/3] bonding: move IPsec deletion to
 bond_ipsec_free_sa

On 2/28/25 12:31, Cosmin Ratiu wrote:
> On Fri, 2025-02-28 at 02:20 +0000, Hangbin Liu wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 03:31:01PM +0200, Nikolay Aleksandrov wrote:
>>>>> One more thing - note I'm not an xfrm expert by far but it
>>>>> seems to me here you have
>>>>> to also callĀ  xdo_dev_state_free() with the old active slave
>>>>> dev otherwise that will
>>>>> never get called with the original real_dev after the switch to
>>>>> a new
>>>>> active slave (or more accurately it might if the GC runs
>>>>> between the switching
>>>>> but it is a race), care must be taken wrt sequence of events
>>>>> because the XFRM
>>>>
>>>> Can we just call xs->xso.real_dev->xfrmdev_ops-
>>>>> xdo_dev_state_free(xs)
>>>> no matter xs->xso.real_dev == real_dev or not? I'm afraid calling
>>>> xdo_dev_state_free() every where may make us lot more easily.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You'd have to check all drivers that implement the callback to
>>> answer that and even then
>>> I'd stick to the canonical way of how it's done in xfrm and make
>>> the bond just passthrough.
>>> Any other games become dangerous and new code will have to be
>>> carefully reviewed every
>>> time, calling another device's free_sa when it wasn't added before
>>> doesn't sound good.
>>>
>>>>> GC may be running in parallel which probably means that in
>>>>> bond_ipsec_free_sa()
>>>>> you'll have to take the mutex before calling
>>>>> xdo_dev_state_free() and check
>>>>> if the entry is still linked in the bond's ipsec list before
>>>>> calling the free_sa
>>>>> callback, if it isn't then del_sa_all got to it before the GC
>>>>> and there's nothing
>>>>> to do if it also called the dev's free_sa callback. The check
>>>>> for real_dev doesn't
>>>>> seem enough to protect against this race.
>>>>
>>>> I agree that we need to take the mutex before calling
>>>> xdo_dev_state_free()
>>>> in bond_ipsec_free_sa(). Do you think if this is enough? I'm a
>>>> bit lot here.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Hangbin
>>>
>>> Well, the race is between the xfrm GC and del_sa_all, in bond's
>>> free_sa if you
>>> walk the list under the mutex before calling real_dev's free
>>> callback and
>>> don't find the current element that's being freed in free_sa then
>>> it was
>>> cleaned up by del_sa_all, otherwise del_sa_all is waiting to walk
>>> that
>>> list and clean the entries. I think it should be fine as long as
>>> free_sa
>>> was called once with the proper device.
>>
>> OK, so the free will be called either in del_sa_all() or free_sa().
>> Something like this?
>>
> [...]
> 
> Unfortunately, after applying these changes and reasoning about them
> for a bit, I don't think this will work. There are still races left.
> For example:
> 1. An xs is marked DEAD (in __xfrm_state_delete, with x->lock held) and
> before .xdo_dev_state_delete() is called on it, bond_ipsec_del_sa_all
> is called in parallel, doesn't call delete on xs (because it's dead),
> then calls free (incorrect without delete first), then removes the list
> entry. Later, xdo_dev_state_delete( == bond_ipsec_del_sa) is called,
> and calls delete (incorrect, out of order with free). Finally,
> bond_ipsec_free_sa is called, which fortunately doesn't do anything
> silly in the new proposed form because xs is no longer in the list.
> 
> 2. A more sinister form of the above race can happen when 
> bond_ipsec_del_sa_all() calls delete on real_dev, then in parallel and
> immediately after __xfrm_state_delete marks xs as DEAD and calls
> bond_ipsec_del_sa() which happily calls delete on real_dev again.
> 
> In order to fix these races (and others like it), I think
> bond_ipsec_del_sa_all and bond_ipsec_add_sa_all *need* to acquire x-
>> lock for each xs being processed. This would prevent xfrm from
> concurrently initiating add/delete operations on the managed states.
> 
> Cosmin.

Duh, right you are. The state is protected by x->lock and cannot be trusted
outside of it. If you take x->lock inside the list walk with the mutex held
you can deadlock.

Cheers,
 Nik



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