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Message-ID: <20250305144554.GA3574115@ax162>
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2025 15:45:54 +0100
From: Nathan Chancellor <nathan@...nel.org>
To: Kees Cook <kees@...nel.org>
Cc: Thomas Weißschuh <linux@...ssschuh.net>,
	Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@...gle.com>,
	Bill Wendling <morbo@...gle.com>,
	Justin Stitt <justinstitt@...gle.com>,
	Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@...nel.org>,
	Nicolas Schier <nicolas@...sle.eu>, llvm@...ts.linux.dev,
	linux-kbuild@...r.kernel.org, David Gow <davidgow@...gle.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-hardening@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kbuild: clang: Support building UM with SUBARCH=i386

On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 09:07:57AM -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 03:51:19PM +0100, Thomas Weißschuh wrote:
> > No, it doesn't.
> > 
> > Running tests with:
> > $ .kunit/linux kunit.filter_glob=overflow.DEFINE_FLEX_test kunit.enable=1 mem=1G console=tty kunit_shutdown=halt
> > [15:48:30] =================== overflow (1 subtest) ===================
> > [15:48:30] # DEFINE_FLEX_test: EXPECTATION FAILED at lib/overflow_kunit.c:1200
> > [15:48:30] Expected __builtin_dynamic_object_size(two_but_zero, 0) == expected_raw_size, but
> > [15:48:30]     __builtin_dynamic_object_size(two_but_zero, 0) == 12 (0xc)
> > [15:48:30]     expected_raw_size == 8 (0x8)
> > [15:48:30] [FAILED] DEFINE_FLEX_test
> > [15:48:30] # module: overflow_kunit
> > [15:48:30] ==================== [FAILED] overflow =====================
> > [15:48:30] ============================================================
> > [15:48:30] Testing complete. Ran 1 tests: failed: 1
> > [15:48:31] Elapsed time: 43.985s total, 0.001s configuring, 43.818s building, 0.133s running
> > 
> > If I force CONFIG_CC_HAS_COUNTED_BY=n then the test succeeds.
> > Clang 19.1.7 from the Arch Linux repos.
> 
> I wasn't seeing with Clang 20 from git:
> ClangBuiltLinux clang version 20.0.0git (git@...hub.com:llvm/llvm-project.git 72901fe19eb1e55d0ee1c380ab7a9f57d2f187c5)
> 
> But I do see the error with ToT Clang:
> ClangBuiltLinux clang version 21.0.0git (git@...hub.com:llvm/llvm-project.git eee3db5421040cfc3eae6e92ed714650a6f741fa)
> 
> Clang 17.1: (does not support counted_by)
> 
>     # DEFINE_FLEX_test: missing counted_by
>     # DEFINE_FLEX_test: sizeof(two_but_zero): 8
>     # DEFINE_FLEX_test: __struct_size(two_but_zero): 12
>     # DEFINE_FLEX_test: __member_size(two_but_zero): 12
>     # DEFINE_FLEX_test: __member_size(two_but_zero->array): 4
> 
> Clang 19.1.1: (actually is _does_ support counted_by, but Linux disables it)
> 
>     # DEFINE_FLEX_test: missing counted_by
>     # DEFINE_FLEX_test: sizeof(two_but_zero): 8
>     # DEFINE_FLEX_test: __struct_size(two_but_zero): 12
>     # DEFINE_FLEX_test: __member_size(two_but_zero): 12
>     # DEFINE_FLEX_test: __member_size(two_but_zero->array): 4
> 
> GCC 13.3:
> 
>     # DEFINE_FLEX_test: missing counted_by
>     # DEFINE_FLEX_test: sizeof(two_but_zero): 8
>     # DEFINE_FLEX_test: __struct_size(two_but_zero): 12
>     # DEFINE_FLEX_test: __member_size(two_but_zero): 12
>     # DEFINE_FLEX_test: __member_size(two_but_zero->array): 4
> 
> Clang 21 (ToT):
> 
>     # DEFINE_FLEX_test: has counted_by
>     # DEFINE_FLEX_test: sizeof(two_but_zero): 8
>     # DEFINE_FLEX_test: __struct_size(two_but_zero): 12
>     # DEFINE_FLEX_test: __member_size(two_but_zero): 12
>     # DEFINE_FLEX_test: __member_size(two_but_zero->array): 0
> 
> GCC 15 (ToT):
> 
>     # DEFINE_FLEX_test: has counted_by
>     # DEFINE_FLEX_test: sizeof(two_but_zero): 8
>     # DEFINE_FLEX_test: __struct_size(two_but_zero): 12
>     # DEFINE_FLEX_test: __member_size(two_but_zero): 12
>     # DEFINE_FLEX_test: __member_size(two_but_zero->array): 0
> 
> It seems like the on-stack sizes with __bdos all agree now, regardless
> of the used compiler features. It is only the array size calculation
> that now gets masked by counted_by. (i.e. the stack size is overridden
> by the zero "count" for the array elements.)
> 
> I'll send a fix for the test...

Just for my own understanding, is this because of the adjustment that
Bill did to the __bdos() calculation in [1]? I think that tracks because
the version of LLVM 20 that you have is pretty old and does not have
that change. I know for a fact I tested the original change to the
overflow KUnit test to adjust the expected calculation result and it
passed but it was before that change as well. If I use a current version
of LLVM 20, I see the failure. If I allow LLVM 18 to use __counted_by(),
the test passes with it. Not that it truly matters but it does explain
how we got to this point.

[1]: https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/commit/8c62bf54df76e37d0978f4901c6be6554e978b53

Cheers,
Nathan

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