lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <Z8sW4c5LxV-ITdCi@thinkpad>
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2025 10:55:13 -0500
From: Yury Norov <yury.norov@...il.com>
To: Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@...nel.org>
Cc: Kuan-Wei Chiu <visitorckw@...il.com>, tglx@...utronix.de,
	mingo@...hat.com, bp@...en8.de, dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com,
	x86@...nel.org, jk@...abs.org, joel@....id.au,
	eajames@...ux.ibm.com, andrzej.hajda@...el.com,
	neil.armstrong@...aro.org, rfoss@...nel.org,
	maarten.lankhorst@...ux.intel.com, mripard@...nel.org,
	tzimmermann@...e.de, airlied@...il.com, simona@...ll.ch,
	dmitry.torokhov@...il.com, mchehab@...nel.org,
	awalls@...metrocast.net, hverkuil@...all.nl,
	miquel.raynal@...tlin.com, richard@....at, vigneshr@...com,
	louis.peens@...igine.com, andrew+netdev@...n.ch,
	davem@...emloft.net, edumazet@...gle.com, pabeni@...hat.com,
	parthiban.veerasooran@...rochip.com, arend.vanspriel@...adcom.com,
	johannes@...solutions.net, gregkh@...uxfoundation.org,
	akpm@...ux-foundation.org, hpa@...or.com, alistair@...ple.id.au,
	linux@...musvillemoes.dk, Laurent.pinchart@...asonboard.com,
	jonas@...boo.se, jernej.skrabec@...il.com, kuba@...nel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-fsi@...ts.ozlabs.org,
	dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org, linux-input@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-media@...r.kernel.org, linux-mtd@...ts.infradead.org,
	oss-drivers@...igine.com, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-wireless@...r.kernel.org, brcm80211@...ts.linux.dev,
	brcm80211-dev-list.pdl@...adcom.com, linux-serial@...r.kernel.org,
	bpf@...r.kernel.org, jserv@...s.ncku.edu.tw,
	Yu-Chun Lin <eleanor15x@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/16] Introduce and use generic parity16/32/64 helper

On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 07:57:48AM +0100, Jiri Slaby wrote:
> On 06. 03. 25, 17:25, Kuan-Wei Chiu wrote:
> > Several parts of the kernel contain redundant implementations of parity
> > calculations for 16/32/64-bit values. Introduces generic
> > parity16/32/64() helpers in bitops.h, providing a standardized
> > and optimized implementation.
> > 
> > Subsequent patches refactor various kernel components to replace
> > open-coded parity calculations with the new helpers, reducing code
> > duplication and improving maintainability.
> > 
> > Co-developed-by: Yu-Chun Lin <eleanor15x@...il.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Yu-Chun Lin <eleanor15x@...il.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Kuan-Wei Chiu <visitorckw@...il.com>
> > ---
> > In v3, I use parityXX() instead of the parity() macro since the
> > parity() macro may generate suboptimal code and requires special hacks
> > to make GCC happy. If anyone still prefers a single parity() macro,
> > please let me know.
> 
> What is suboptimal and where exactly it matters? Have you actually measured
> it?

I asked exactly this question at least 3 times, and have never
received perf tests or asm listings - nothing. I've never received
any comments from driver maintainers about how performance of the
parity() is important for them, as well.

With the absence of _any_ feedback, I'm not going to take this series,
of course, for the reason: overengineering.

With that said, the simplest way would be replacing parity8(u8) with
parity(u64) 'one size fits all' thing. I even made a one extra step,
suggesting a macro that would generate a better code for smaller types
with almost no extra maintenance burden. This is another acceptable
option to me.

Thanks,
Yury

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ