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Message-ID: <58c5e76a-e320-4296-8292-1ddf3f7ba56d@arm.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 14:37:48 +0000
From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@....com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/4] iommu/arm: Add BBM Level 2 smmu feature

On 04/03/2025 4:19 pm, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 04:02:20PM +0000, Ryan Roberts wrote:
>> On 04/03/2025 14:26, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>>> On Mon, Mar 03, 2025 at 07:03:42PM +0000, Mikołaj Lenczewski wrote:
>>>
>>>> For example, if we use BBML2 for kernel mappings, does that require us
>>>> to repaint all kernel mappings when disabling BBML2 on smmu attach? I
>>>> am not sure, but definitely something to be worked out.
>>>
>>> No, it would be a per-mm_struct basis only if we did something like
>>> that
>>>
>>> When the SMMU driver puts a SVA on top of the mm_struct it would
>>> disable BBML2 usage only for that mm_struct and it's contained VMAs.
>>
>> I guess we would need to figure out some synchonization mechanism if disabling
>> BBML2 dynaically per-mm. If there was already a BBML2 operation in flight would
>> want to wait for it to end. But that's a problem to solve if/when it's shown to
>> be needed, I think.
> 
> I have a feeling we can piggyback on the mmu notifiers to achieve this
> as all the changes to the PTEs should be bracketed by notifier
> callbacks..
> 
> Let's hope it isn't needed.

Yup, as mentioned previously, this is largely theoretical and at worst 
only a risk of affecting 3rd-party SMMU implementations. Arm's 
implementations from MMU-700 onwards do support BBML2; MMU-600 *might* 
actually be OK as well, but it predates the definition of the feature, 
and there are more practical reasons not to integrate a decade-old SMMU 
design with brand new CPUs anyway.

Thanks,
Robin.

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