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Message-ID: <Z9B9CNRatBtyAO8Q@boqun-archlinux>
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 11:12:24 -0700
From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@...il.com>
To: Abdiel Janulgue <abdiel.janulgue@...il.com>
Cc: rust-for-linux@...r.kernel.org, daniel.almeida@...labora.com,
	dakr@...nel.org, robin.murphy@....com, aliceryhl@...gle.com,
	Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@...nel.org>,
	Alex Gaynor <alex.gaynor@...il.com>, Gary Guo <gary@...yguo.net>,
	Björn Roy Baron <bjorn3_gh@...tonmail.com>,
	Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@...ton.me>,
	Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@...nel.org>,
	Trevor Gross <tmgross@...ch.edu>,
	Valentin Obst <kernel@...entinobst.de>,
	open list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@...sung.com>, airlied@...hat.com,
	"open list:DMA MAPPING HELPERS" <iommu@...ts.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v14 02/11] rust: add dma coherent allocator abstraction.

On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 07:47:58PM +0200, Abdiel Janulgue wrote:
[...]
> +    /// Reads the value of `field` and ensures that its type is [`FromBytes`].
> +    ///
> +    /// # Safety
> +    ///
> +    /// This must be called from the [`dma_read`] macro which ensures that the `field` pointer is
> +    /// validated beforehand.
> +    ///
> +    /// Public but hidden since it should only be used from [`dma_read`] macro.
> +    #[doc(hidden)]
> +    pub unsafe fn field_read<F: FromBytes>(&self, field: *const F) -> F {
> +        // SAFETY: By the safety requirements field is valid.
> +        unsafe { field.read_volatile() }

I agree with Andreas that we should document the exception of usage on
{read,write}_volatile() here. How about:

When dealing with a potential race from a hardware or code outside
kernel (e.g. user-space program), we need that read and write on a valid
memory are not UBs. Currently {read,write}_volatile() are used for this,
and the rationale behind is that they should generate the same code as
READ_ONCE() and WRITE_ONCE() which kernel already relies on to avoid UBs
on data races. Note that the usage of {read,write}_volatile() is limited
to this particular case, they cannot be used to emit the UBs caused by
racing between two kernel functions nor do they provide atomicity.

Thoughts? One problem is that I don't know where to put this document
:-( Any suggestion?

Regards,
Boqun

> +    }
> +
> +    /// Writes a value to `field` and ensures that its type is [`AsBytes`].
> +    ///
> +    /// # Safety
> +    ///
> +    /// This must be called from the [`dma_write`] macro which ensures that the `field` pointer is
> +    /// validated beforehand.
> +    ///
> +    /// Public but hidden since it should only be used from [`dma_write`] macro.
> +    #[doc(hidden)]
> +    pub unsafe fn field_write<F: AsBytes>(&self, field: *mut F, val: F) {
> +        // SAFETY: By the safety requirements field is valid.
> +        unsafe { field.write_volatile(val) }
> +    }
> +}
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