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Message-ID: <Z-WAZ_IlMBB3XbTN@ninjato>
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2025 17:44:23 +0100
From: Wolfram Sang <wsa+renesas@...g-engineering.com>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@...nel.org>
Cc: Prabhakar <prabhakar.csengg@...il.com>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@...der.be>,
	Michael Turquette <mturquette@...libre.com>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@...nel.org>, Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@...nel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@...nel.org>,
	Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@...aro.org>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@...aro.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@...nel.org>,
	Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@...il.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,
	Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>, linux-renesas-soc@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-clk@...r.kernel.org, devicetree@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-mmc@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-gpio@...r.kernel.org, linux-serial@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org,
	Biju Das <biju.das.jz@...renesas.com>,
	Fabrizio Castro <fabrizio.castro.jz@...esas.com>,
	Lad Prabhakar <prabhakar.mahadev-lad.rj@...renesas.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 15/15] arm64: defconfig: Enable Renesas RZ/V2N SoC


> You did not object to last discussion about this (a month ago) - neither
> to my comments nor to resolution - so this patchset repeating the same

Because I cannot follow every Renesas patch series there is. You are
long enough around to know that large companies have different entities,
groups whatsoever. It is quite a challenge to streamline this via one
group, we need to share work. We do try hard, though, and have a
ARM/RISC-V/RENESAS ARCHITECTURE maintainer. Geert does a *hell of a job*
getting all these submission into shape, and he surely does not accept
code thrown over the wall. And geez, the patch series was just sent
yesterday, you didn't give us even time to raise the issue internally.

> pattern from the same folks while ignoring previous talk is
> contradicting "not too bad at fixing stuff".

First, being a maintainer myself, I do understand the frustration of
patch review not being honored. I can also agree that this series did
not work out perfectly. But that does not mean that we don't care, in
general.  Despite all imperfection and possibly different opinions, we
try hard to be a good citizen and spend considerable time on doing
things right. Accusing us of throwing just "code over the wall" because
there is an issue somewhere which hasn't been worked on in one month is
plain unfair.

That all being said, we will fix it eventually.


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