linux-kernel - Re: [git pull] drm for 6.15-rc1

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Message-ID: <CAHk-=wjMrqzuUmH-mFbR_46EWEFS=bB=J7h9ABMVy56Vi81PKQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2025 08:42:55 -0700
From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
To: Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@...ux.intel.com>
Cc: Dave Airlie <airlied@...il.com>, simona.vetter@...ll.ch, 
	dri-devel <dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [git pull] drm for 6.15-rc1

On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 at 03:17, Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@...ux.intel.com> wrote:
>
> I suggest a Kconfig knob to truly make this opt-in, only for developers
> who actually want it.

So honestly, the thing I *really* hated was the horrendous naming.

I live in auto-complete. I basically never type out file-names, and I
replace keyboards every once in a while because my TAB key has worn
down (not really, but you get the idea).

And *if* this feature is useful - and while I disagree about the whole
"header files have to be self-sufficient" as a general rule, I can see
it being useful for uapi headers - then dammit, the file naming needs
to *DIE*. It needs to be taken out behind the shed and shot in the
head, because it messes with TAB-completion.

Having "this has been checked" turds that live in the same name-space
as real files is wrong.

In the kernel, we often hide them explicitly (ie using the dot prefix
to make them hide, but also to make them not mess with auto-complete).
That's an option. But some people hate the hiding, and if that's an
issue, just put it all in a different subdirectory entirely.

Yes, I realize that you guys may live in the whole "different
subdirectory entirely" world of doing the whole build in a separate
build directory, and might say "why are you working in the same tree
as the generated files in the first place if auto-complete is so
important to you".

And to that I say "because I equally often look at the generated
files". When they make *sense* to look at, not when they are
auto-generated makefile checking crap.

So please. This feature needs to be done completely differently.

           Linus