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Message-ID: <3bb22f41-9218-47c1-8a0f-c484bdaeb9eb@amd.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2025 12:02:15 +0530
From: Sandipan Das <sandipan.das@....com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com>,
 Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@...hat.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>, kvm@...r.kernel.org,
 linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@....com>,
 Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@...el.com>, rangemachine@...il.com,
 whanos@...gal.fun, nikunj.dadhania@....com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/6] KVM: SVM: Fix DEBUGCTL bugs

On 4/9/2025 4:13 AM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 01, 2025, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
>> On Thu, 2025-02-27 at 14:24 -0800, Sean Christopherson wrote:
>>> Fix a long-lurking bug in SVM where KVM runs the guest with the host's
>>> DEBUGCTL if LBR virtualization is disabled.  AMD CPUs rather stupidly
>>> context switch DEBUGCTL if and only if LBR virtualization is enabled (not
>>> just supported, but fully enabled).
>>>
>>> The bug has gone unnoticed because until recently, the only bits that
>>> KVM would leave set were things like BTF, which are guest visible but
>>> won't cause functional problems unless guest software is being especially
>>> particular about #DBs.
>>>
>>> The bug was exposed by the addition of BusLockTrap ("Detect" in the kernel),
>>> as the resulting #DBs due to split-lock accesses in guest userspace (lol
>>> Steam) get reflected into the guest by KVM.
>>>
>>> Note, I don't love suppressing DEBUGCTL.BTF, but practically speaking that's
>>> likely the behavior that SVM guests have gotten the vast, vast majority of
>>> the time, and given that it's the behavior on Intel, it's (hopefully) a safe
>>> option for a fix, e.g. versus trying to add proper BTF virtualization on the
>>> fly.
>>>
>>> v3:
>>>  - Suppress BTF, as KVM doesn't actually support it. [Ravi]
>>>  - Actually load the guest's DEBUGCTL (though amusingly, with BTF squashed,
>>>    it's guaranteed to be '0' in this scenario). [Ravi]
>>>
>>> v2:
>>>  - Load the guest's DEBUGCTL instead of simply zeroing it on VMRUN.
>>>  - Drop bits 5:3 from guest DEBUGCTL so that KVM doesn't let the guest
>>>    unintentionally enable BusLockTrap (AMD repurposed bits). [Ravi]
>>>  - Collect a review. [Xiaoyao]
>>>  - Make bits 5:3 fully reserved, in a separate not-for-stable patch.
>>>
>>> v1: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250224181315.2376869-1-seanjc@google.com
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Amusingly there is another DEBUGCTL issue, which I just got to the bottom of.
>> (if I am not mistaken of course).
>>
>> We currently don't let the guest set DEBUGCTL.FREEZE_WHILE_SMM and neither
>> set it ourselves in GUEST_IA32_DEBUGCTL vmcs field, even when supported by the host
>> (If I read the code correctly, I didn't verify this in runtime)
> 
> Ugh, SMM.  Yeah, KVM doesn't propagate DEBUGCTLMSR_FREEZE_IN_SMM to the guest
> value.  KVM intercepts reads and writes to DEBUGCTL, so it should be easy enough
> to shove the bit in on writes, and drop it on reads.
> 
>> This means that the host #SMIs will interfere with the guest PMU.  In
>> particular this causes the 'pmu' kvm-unit-test to fail, which is something
>> that our CI caught.
>>
>> I think that kvm should just set this bit, or even better, use the host value
>> of this bit, and hide it from the guest, because the guest shouldn't know
>> about host's smm, and we AFAIK don't really support freezing perfmon when the
>> guest enters its own emulated SMM.
> 
> Agreed.  Easy thing is to use the host's value, so that KVM doesn't need to check
> for its existence.  I can't think of anything that would go sideways by freezing
> perfmon if the host happens to take an SMI.
> 
>> What do you think? I'll post patches if you think that this is a good idea.
>> (A temp hack to set this bit always in GUEST_IA32_DEBUGCTL fixed the problem for me)
>>
>> I also need to check if AMD also has this feature, or if this is Intel specific.
> 
> Intel only.  I assume/think/hope AMD's Host/Guest Only field in the event selector
> effectively hides SMM from the guest.

Just using the GuestOnly bit does not hide SMM activity from guests. SMIs are
generally intercepted (kvm_amd.intercept_smi defaults to true) and handled in the
host context. So guest PMCs are isolated by a combination of having the GuestOnly
bit set and the #VMEXITs resulting from SMI interception.

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