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Message-ID: <l3b2rwwwwtrxr5fyya3xnxtzlmvkmiwobxy363cvmxgegg56fv@wpxgyc3ymtxe>
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 09:47:51 -0700
From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...nel.org>
To: "Kaplan, David" <David.Kaplan@....com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>, 
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>, Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@...ux.intel.com>, 
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>, 
	"x86@...nel.org" <x86@...nel.org>, "H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, 
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@...gle.com>, 
	Derek Manwaring <derekmn@...zon.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 17/36] Documentation/x86: Document the new attack
 vector controls

On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 04:10:49PM +0000, Kaplan, David wrote:
> > I think the note is helpful, it attempts to explain why there are no X's.  I was just
> > thinking that it seems more logical to put it in the same column as the others.  And
> > that would also help make it more clear that yes, the X's are missing.  Which is
> > indeed odd, but it's also the reality.
> >
> 
> Right, except that the last column is about the cross-thread vector,
> which is irrelevant for SSB.  All the other notes specifically pertain
> to SMT leakage.

Ah.  Can we give the column a broader heading like "Notes"?

> I could put the '(Note 4)' text in every column, but that might be
> even weirder.  I could also remove SSB entirely from the table since
> it isn't technically relevant for any of the attack vector controls?

I'm thinking the table should list all the mitigations, regardless of
whether they're affected by these controls, so the controls are
well-defined without any ambiguity.

-- 
Josh

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