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Message-ID: <87h62qymrp.fsf@oracle.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2025 23:14:18 -0700
From: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@...cle.com>
To: Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@...il.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
        Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@...cle.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-mm@...ck.org, x86@...nel.org, torvalds@...ux-foundation.org,
        akpm@...ux-foundation.org, bp@...en8.de, dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com,
        hpa@...or.com, mingo@...hat.com, luto@...nel.org, paulmck@...nel.org,
        rostedt@...dmis.org, tglx@...utronix.de, willy@...radead.org,
        jon.grimm@....com, bharata@....com, raghavendra.kt@....com,
        boris.ostrovsky@...cle.com, konrad.wilk@...cle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] x86/clear_page: extend clear_page*() for
 multi-page clearing


Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@...il.com> writes:

> On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 01:02:59PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> This symbol is written as a C function with C calling convention, even
>> though it is only meant to be called from that clear_page() alternative.
>>
>> If we want to go change all this, then we should go do the same we do
>> for __clear_user() and write it thusly:
>>
>> 	asm volatile(ALTERNATIVE("rep stosb",
>> 				 "call rep_stos_alternative", ALT_NOT(X86_FEATURE_FSRS)
>> 				 : "+c" (size), "+D" (addr), ASM_CALL_CONSTRAINT
>> 				 : "a" (0))
>>
>> And forget about all those clear_page_*() thingies.
>>
>
> I have to disagree.
>
> Next to nobody has FSRS, so for now one would have to expect everyone
> would be punting to the routine. Did you mean ERMS as sizes are in fact
> not short?
>
> rep_stos_alternative() as implemented right now sucks in its own right
> ("small" areas sorted out with an 8 byte and 1 byte loops, bigger ones
> unrolled 64 byte loop at a time, no rep stos{b,q} in sight). Someone(tm)
> should fix it and for the sake of argument suppose it happened. That's
> still some code executed to figure out how to zero and to align the buf.
>
> Instead, I think one can start with just retiring clear_page_orig().
>
> With that sucker out of the way, an optional quest is to figure out if
> rep stosq vs rep stosb makes any difference for pages -- for all I know
> rep stosq is the way. This would require testing on quite a few uarchs
> and I'm not going to blame anyone for not being interested.

IIRC some recent AMD models (Rome?) did expose REP_GOOD but not ERMS.

> Let's say nobody bothered OR rep stosb provides a win. In that case this
> can trivially ALTERNATIVE between rep stosb and rep stosq based on ERMS,
> no func calls necessary.

We shouldn't need any function calls for ERMS and REP_GOOD.

I think something like this untested code should work:

 	asm volatile(
            ALTERNATIVE_2("call clear_pages_orig",
                          "rep stosb", X86_FEATURE_REP_GOOD,
                          "shrl $3,%ecx; rep stosq", X86_FEATURE_ERMS,
 		          : "+c" (size), "+D" (addr), ASM_CALL_CONSTRAINT
                          : "a" (0)))

--
ankur

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