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Message-ID: <20250415062320.bMvqQsQ4@linutronix.de>
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 08:23:20 +0200
From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@...utronix.de>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@...mens.com>
Cc: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@....com>,
	Aaron Lu <ziqianlu@...edance.com>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@...hat.com>,
	linux-rt-users@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@...hat.com>,
	Clark Williams <williams@...hat.com>,
	"Luis Claudio R. Goncalves" <lgoncalv@...hat.com>,
	Andreas Ziegler <ziegler.andreas@...mens.com>,
	Felix Moessbauer <felix.moessbauer@...mens.com>,
	Florian Bezdeka <florian.bezdeka@...mens.com>
Subject: Re: [RT BUG] Stall caused by eventpoll, rwlocks and CFS bandwidth
 controller

On 2025-04-15 07:35:50 [+0200], Jan Kiszka wrote:
> > On RT the read_lock() in the timer block, the write blocks, too. So
> > every blocker on the lock is scheduled out until the reader is gone. On
> > top of that, the reader gets RCU boosted with FIFO-1 by default to get
> > out.
> 
> There is no boosting of the active readers on RT as there is no
> information recorded about who is currently holding a read lock. This is
> the whole point why rwlocks are hairy with RT, I thought.

Kind of, yes. PREEMPT_RT has by default RCU boosting enabled with
SCHED_FIFO 1. If you acquire a readlock you start a RCU section. If you
get stuck in a RCU section for too long then this boosting will take
effect by making the task, within the RCU section, the owner of the
boost-lock and the boosting task will try to acquire it. This is used to
get SCHED_OTHER tasks out of the RCU section.
But if a SCHED_FIFO task is on the CPU then this boosting will have to
no effect because the scheduler will not switch to a task with lower
priority.

> Jan

Sebastian

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