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Message-ID: <CALW65jZVYUZoka7Gbjcoh43qbkD7rGpw8gTZjjOYpZD-BhLyBQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2025 16:42:46 +0800
From: Qingfang Deng <dqfext@...il.com>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@...nel.org>
Cc: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@...nel.org>, Herbert Xu <herbert@...dor.apana.org.au>, 
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@...ive.com>, 
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@...belt.com>, Albert Ou <aou@...s.berkeley.edu>, 
	Alexandre Ghiti <alex@...ti.fr>, linux-crypto@...r.kernel.org, 
	linux-riscv@...ts.infradead.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, 
	Christoph Müllner <christoph.muellner@...ll.eu>, 
	Heiko Stuebner <heiko.stuebner@...ll.eu>, Qingfang Deng <qingfang.deng@...lower.com.cn>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] crypto: riscv: scalar accelerated GHASH

On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 3:58 PM Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@...nel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > What is the use case for this? AIUI, the scalar AES instructions were
> > > never implemented by anyone, so how do you expect this to be used in
> > > practice?
> >
> > The use case _is_ AES-GCM, as you mentioned. Without this, computing
> > GHASH can take a considerable amount of CPU time (monitored by perf).
> >
>
> I see. But do you have a particular configuration in mind? Does it
> have scalar AES too? I looked into that a while ago but I was told
> that nobody actually incorporates that. So what about these
> extensions? Are they commonly implemented?

It's aes-generic.c (LUT-based) with accelerated GHASH.

>
> [0] https://web.git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/ardb/linux.git/log/?h=riscv-scalar-aes
>
> > > ...
> > > > +static __always_inline __uint128_t get_unaligned_be128(const u8 *p)
> > > > +{
> > > > +       __uint128_t val;
> > > > +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_EFFICIENT_UNALIGNED_ACCESS
> > >
> > > CONFIG_HAVE_EFFICIENT_UNALIGNED_ACCESS means that get_unaligned_xxx()
> > > helpers are cheap. Casting a void* to an aligned type is still UB as
> > > per the C standard.
> >
> > Technically an unaligned access is UB but this pattern is widely used
> > in networking code.
> >
>
> Of course. But that is no reason to keep doing it.
>
> > >
> > > So better to drop the #ifdef entirely, and just use the
> > > get_unaligned_be64() helpers for both cases.
> >
> > Currently those helpers won't generate rev8 instructions, even if
> > HAVE_EFFICIENT_UNALIGNED_ACCESS and RISCV_ISA_ZBB is set, so I have to
> > implement my own version of this to reduce the number of instructions,
> > and to align with the original OpenSSL implementation.
> >
>
> So fix the helpers.

The issue is that RISC-V GCC doesn’t emit efficient unaligned loads by default:
- Not all RISC-V CPUs support unaligned access efficiently, so GCC
falls back to conservative byte-wise code.
- There’s no clean way to force the optimized path - GCC only emits
fast unaligned loads if tuned for a specific CPU (e.g., -mtune=size or
-mtune=thead-c906), which the kernel doesn't typically do, even with
HAVE_EFFICIENT_UNALIGNED_ACCESS.

Maybe we should raise this with the GCC maintainers. An explicit
option to enable optimized unaligned access could help.

As for rev8, there's a patch pending to implement the swab macros.

-- Qingfang

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