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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 15:59:18 -0700
From: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@...ux.dev>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, 
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org>, 
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@...ux.dev>, Muchun Song <muchun.song@...ux.dev>, 
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>, 
	Soheil Hassas Yeganeh <soheil@...gle.com>, linux-mm@...ck.org, cgroups@...r.kernel.org, 
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, 
	Meta kernel team <kernel-team@...a.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] memcg: multi-memcg percpu charge cache

On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 03:30:46PM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 15:16:56 -0700 Shakeel Butt wrote:
> > > > -	if (!local_trylock_irqsave(&memcg_stock.stock_lock, flags)) {
> > > > +	if (nr_pages > MEMCG_CHARGE_BATCH ||
> > > > +	    !local_trylock_irqsave(&memcg_stock.stock_lock, flags)) {
> > > >  		/*
> > > > -		 * In case of unlikely failure to lock percpu stock_lock
> > > > -		 * uncharge memcg directly.
> > > > +		 * In case of larger than batch refill or unlikely failure to
> > > > +		 * lock the percpu stock_lock, uncharge memcg directly.
> > > >  		 */  
> > > 
> > > We're bypassing the cache for > CHARGE_BATCH because the u8 math 
> > > may overflow? Could be useful to refocus the comment on the 'why'
> > 
> > We actually never put more than MEMCG_CHARGE_BATCH in the cache and thus
> > we can use u8 as type here. Though we may increase the batch size in
> > future, so I should put a BUILD_BUG_ON somewhere here.
> 
> No idea if this matters enough to deserve its own commit but basically
> I was wondering if that behavior change is a separate optimization.
> 
> Previously we'd check if the cache was for the releasing cgroup and sum
> was over BATCH - drain its stock completely. Now we bypass looking at
> the cache if nr_pages > BATCH so the cgroup may retain some stock.

Yes indeed there is a little bit behavior change as you have explained.
The older behavior (fully drain if nr_pages > BATCH) might be due to
single per-cpu memcg cache limitation and in my opinion is problematic
in some scenarios. If you see commit 5387c90490f7 ("mm/memcg: improve
refill_obj_stock() performance"), a very similar behavior for objcg
cache was having a performance impact and was optimized by only allowing
the drain for some code paths. With multi-memcg support, I think we
don't need to worry about it. Multi-objcg per-cpu cache is also on my
TODO list.


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