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Message-ID: <aBTO3r6Py_emwf1Y@jlelli-thinkpadt14gen4.remote.csb>
Date: Fri, 2 May 2025 15:55:42 +0200
From: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@...hat.com>
To: Marcel Ziswiler <marcel.ziswiler@...ethink.co.uk>
Cc: linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Vineeth Pillai <vineeth@...byteword.org>,
	Luca Abeni <luca.abeni@...tannapisa.it>
Subject: Re: SCHED_DEADLINE tasks missing their deadline with
 SCHED_FLAG_RECLAIM jobs in the mix (using GRUB)

Hi Marcel,

On 28/04/25 20:04, Marcel Ziswiler wrote:
> Hi
> 
> As part of our trustable work [1], we also run a lot of real time scheduler (SCHED_DEADLINE) tests on the
> mainline Linux kernel. Overall, the Linux scheduler proves quite capable of scheduling deadline tasks down to a
> granularity of 5ms on both of our test systems (amd64-based Intel NUCs and aarch64-based RADXA ROCK5Bs).
> However, recently, we noticed a lot of deadline misses if we introduce overrunning jobs with reclaim mode
> enabled (SCHED_FLAG_RECLAIM) using GRUB (Greedy Reclamation of Unused Bandwidth). E.g. from hundreds of
> millions of test runs over the course of a full week where we usually see absolutely zero deadline misses, we
> see 43 million deadline misses on NUC and 600 thousand on ROCK5B (which also has double the CPU cores). This is
> with otherwise exactly the same test configuration, which adds exactly the same two overrunning jobs to the job
> mix, but once without reclaim enabled and once with reclaim enabled.
> 
> We are wondering whether there are any known limitations to GRUB or what exactly could be the issue.
> 
> We are happy to provide more detailed debugging information but are looking for suggestions how/what exactly to
> look at.

Could you add details of the taskset you are working with? The number of
tasks, their reservation parameters (runtime, period, deadline) and how
much they are running (or trying to run) each time they wake up. Also
which one is using GRUB and which one maybe is not.

Adding Luca in Cc so he can also take a look.

Thanks,
Juri


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