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Message-ID: <6d785712-6d8e-491c-86d4-1cbe5895778f@canonical.com>
Date: Thu, 8 May 2025 01:25:19 -0700
From: John Johansen <john.johansen@...onical.com>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@...ove.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
 Maxime Bélair <maxime.belair@...onical.com>,
 linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org
Cc: paul@...l-moore.com, jmorris@...ei.org, serge@...lyn.com,
 mic@...ikod.net, kees@...nel.org, stephen.smalley.work@...il.com,
 casey@...aufler-ca.com, takedakn@...data.co.jp, linux-api@...r.kernel.org,
 apparmor@...ts.ubuntu.com, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] lsm: introduce security_lsm_manage_policy hook

On 5/7/25 03:40, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> On 2025/05/06 23:32, Maxime Bélair wrote:
>> diff --git a/security/lsm_syscalls.c b/security/lsm_syscalls.c
>> index dcaad8818679..b39e6635a7d5 100644
>> --- a/security/lsm_syscalls.c
>> +++ b/security/lsm_syscalls.c
>> @@ -122,5 +122,10 @@ SYSCALL_DEFINE3(lsm_list_modules, u64 __user *, ids, u32 __user *, size,
>>   SYSCALL_DEFINE5(lsm_manage_policy, u32, lsm_id, u32, op, void __user *, buf, u32
>>   		__user *, size, u32, flags)
>>   {
>> -	return 0;
>> +	size_t usize;
>> +
>> +	if (get_user(usize, size))
>> +		return -EFAULT;
>> +
>> +	return security_lsm_manage_policy(lsm_id, op, buf, usize, flags);
>>   }
> 
> syzbot will report user-controlled unbounded huge size memory allocation attempt. ;-)
> 
> This interface might be fine for AppArmor, but TOMOYO won't use this interface because
> TOMOYO's policy is line-oriented ASCII text data where the destination is switched via
> pseudo‑filesystem's filename; use of filename helps restricting which type of policy
> can be manipulated by which process.
> 

That is fine. But curious I am curious what the interface would look like to fit TOMOYO's
needs. I look at the current implementation as an opening discussion of what the syscall
should look like. I have no delusions that we are going to get something that will fit
all LSMs but without requirements, we won't be able to even attempt to hash something
better out.


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