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Message-ID: <CACYkzJ528JBKbhiw1HNfv1kDBYv_C76cFB8a_Wa6DSqZp5_XuA@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 11 May 2025 04:14:20 +0200
From: KP Singh <kpsingh@...nel.org>
To: Paul Moore <paul@...l-moore.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/4] Introducing Hornet LSM

[...]

> Blaise started this most recent effort by attempting to address the
> concerns brought up in previous efforts, you and others rejected this
> first attempt and directed Blaise towards a light skeleton and LSM
> based approach, which is where he is at with Hornet.  Once again, you
> reject this approach with minimal guidance on what would be
> acceptable, and our response is to ask for clarification on your
> preferred design.  We're not asking for a full working solution,
> simply a couple of paragraphs outlining the design with enough detail
> to put forward a working solution that isn't immediately NACK'd.
> We've made this request multiple times in the past, most recently this
> past weekend, where KP replied that he would be "happy" to share

Here's the proposed design:

https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/CACYkzJ6VQUExfyt0=-FmXz46GHJh3d=FXh5j4KfexcEFbHV-vg@mail.gmail.com/#t


> designs/code.  Unfortunately, since then all we've received from
> either you or KP since then has been effectively just a list of your
> objections on repeat; surely typing out a couple of paragraphs
> outlining a design would have been quicker, easier, and more
> constructive then your latest reply?

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