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Message-ID: <9B4F1C6D-05C1-4CFF-ABCA-3314E695894E@nutanix.com>
Date: Tue, 13 May 2025 02:18:18 +0000
From: Jon Kohler <jon@...anix.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 03/18] KVM: x86: Add module parameter for Intel MBEC



> On May 12, 2025, at 2:08 PM, Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com> wrote:
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> On Thu, Mar 13, 2025, Jon Kohler wrote:
>> Add 'enable_pt_guest_exec_control' module parameter to x86 code, with
>> default value false.
> 
> ...
> 
>> +bool __read_mostly enable_pt_guest_exec_control;
>> +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(enable_pt_guest_exec_control);
>> +module_param(enable_pt_guest_exec_control, bool, 0444);
> 
> The default value of a parameter doesn't prevent userspace from enabled the param.
> I.e. the instant this patch lands, userspace can enable enable_pt_guest_exec_control,
> which means MBEC needs to be 100% functional before this can be exposed to userspace.
> 
> The right way to do this is to simply omit the module param until KVM is ready to
> let userspace enable the feature.
> 
> All that said, I don't see any reason to add a module param for this.  *KVM* isn't
> using MBEC, the guest is using MBEC.  And unless host userspace is being extremely
> careless with VMX MSRs, exposing MBEC to the guest will require additional VMM
> enabling and/or user opt-in.
> 
> KVM provides module params to control features that KVM is using, generally when
> there is no sane alternative to tell KVM not to use a particular feature, i.e.
> when there is way for the user to disable a feature for testing/debug purposes.
> 
> Furthermore, how this series keys off the module param throughout KVM is completely
> wrong.  The *only* input that ultimately matters is the control bit in vmcs12.
> Whether or not KVM allows that bit to be set could be controlled by a module param,
> but KVM shouldn't be looking at the module param outside of that particular check.
> 
> TL;DR: advertising and enabling MBEC should come along when KVM allows the bit to
>       be set in vmcs12.

Gotcha, and I think this fact alone will drive a nice bit of cleanup thru
the entire series. Will mop it up

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