linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] exec: Correct the permission check for unsafe exec

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Message-ID: <aCeyKHNDbPLWQP0i@lei>
Date: Fri, 16 May 2025 21:46:16 +0000
From: sergeh@...nel.org
To: Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	Kees Cook <kees@...nel.org>,
	Max Kellermann <max.kellermann@...os.com>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@...lyn.com>, paul@...l-moore.com,
	jmorris@...ei.org, Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
	morgan@...nel.org, Christian Brauner <christian@...uner.io>,
	linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] exec: Correct the permission check for unsafe exec

On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 08:06:15PM +0200, Jann Horn wrote:
> On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 5:26 PM Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@...ssion.com> wrote:
> > Kees Cook <kees@...nel.org> writes:
> >
> > > On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 11:24:47AM -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> > >> I have condensed the logic from Linux-2.4.0-test12 to just:
> > >>      id_changed = !uid_eq(new->euid, old->euid) || !in_group_p(new->egid);
> > >>
> > >> This change is userspace visible, but I don't expect anyone to care.
> > >> [...]
> > >> -static inline bool __is_setuid(struct cred *new, const struct cred *old)
> > >> -{ return !uid_eq(new->euid, old->uid); }
> > >> -
> > >> -static inline bool __is_setgid(struct cred *new, const struct cred *old)
> > >> -{ return !gid_eq(new->egid, old->gid); }
> > >> -
> > >> [...]
> > >> -    is_setid = __is_setuid(new, old) || __is_setgid(new, old);
> > >> +    id_changed = !uid_eq(new->euid, old->euid) || !in_group_p(new->egid);
> > >
> > > The core change here is testing for differing euid rather than
> > > mismatched uid/euid. (And checking for egid in the set of all groups.)
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > For what the code is trying to do I can't fathom what was trying to
> > be accomplished by the "mismatched" uid/euid check.
> 
> I remember that when I was looking at this code years ago, one case I
> was interested in was what happens when a setuid process (running with
> something like euid=1000,ruid=0) execve()'s a normal binary. Clearly
> the LSM_UNSAFE_* stuff is not so interesting there, because we're
> already coming from a privileged context; but the behavior of
> bprm->secureexec could be important.
> 
> Like, I think currently a setuid binary like this is probably (?) not
> exploitable:
> 
> int main(void) {
>   execl("/bin/echo", "echo", "hello world");
> }
> 
> but after your proposed change, I think it might (?) become
> exploitable because "echo" would not have AT_SECURE set (I think?) and
> would therefore load libraries based on environment variables?
> 
> To be clear, I think this would be a stupid thing for userspace to do
> - a setuid binary just should not be running other binaries with the
> caller-provided environment while having elevated privileges. But if
> userspace was doing something like that, this change might make it
> more exploitable, and I imagine that the check for mismatched uid/euid
> was intended to catch cases like this?

If the original process became privileged by executing a setuid-root
file (and uses glibc), then LD_PRELOAD will already have been cleared,
right?  So it would either have to add the unsafe entries back to
LD_PRELOAD again, or it has to have been root all along, not a
setuid-root program.  I think at that point we have to say this is what
it intended, and possibly with good reason.

-serge