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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 11/23] iommufd/viommu: Add IOMMUFD_CMD_HW_QUEUE_ALLOC
 ioctl

On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 03:52:16AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> > From: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@...dia.com>
> > Sent: Friday, May 16, 2025 11:17 AM
> > 
> > On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 02:49:44AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> > > > From: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@...dia.com>
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 16, 2025 2:45 AM
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 06:30:27AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> > > > > > From: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@...dia.com>
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 9, 2025 11:03 AM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +/**
> > > > > > + * struct iommu_hw_queue_alloc - ioctl(IOMMU_HW_QUEUE_ALLOC)
> > > > > > + * @size: sizeof(struct iommu_hw_queue_alloc)
> > > > > > + * @flags: Must be 0
> > > > > > + * @viommu_id: Virtual IOMMU ID to associate the HW queue with
> > > > > > + * @type: One of enum iommu_hw_queue_type
> > > > > > + * @index: The logical index to the HW queue per virtual IOMMU for
> > a
> > > > > > multi-queue
> > > > > > + *         model
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm thinking of an alternative way w/o having the user to assign index
> > > > > and allowing the driver to poke object dependency (next patch).
> > > > >
> > > > > Let's say the index is internally assigned by the driver. so this cmd is
> > > > > just for allowing a hw queue and it's the driver to decide the allocation
> > > > > policy, e.g. in ascending order.
> > > > >
> > > > > Introduce a new flag in viommu_ops to indicate to core that the
> > > > > new hw queue should hold a reference to the previous hw queue.
> > > > >
> > > > > core maintains a last_queue field in viommu. Upon success return
> > > > > from @hw_queue_alloc() the core increments the users refcnt of
> > > > > last_queue, records the dependency in iommufd_hw_queue struct,
> > > > > and update viommu->last_queue.
> > > > >
> > > > > Then the destroy order is naturally guaranteed.
> > > >
> > > > I have thought about that too. It's nice that the core can easily
> > > > maintain the dependency for the driver.
> > > >
> > > > But there would still need an out_index to mark each dynamically
> > > > allocated queue. So VMM would know where it should map the queue.
> > > >
> > > > For example, if VMM wants to allocate a queue at its own index=1
> > > > without allocating index=0 first, kernel cannot fail that as VMM
> > > > doesn't provide the index. The only way left for kernel would be
> > > > to output the allocated queue with index=0 and then wish VMM can
> > > > validate it, which doesn't sound safe..
> > > >
> > >
> > > VMM's index is virtual which could be mapped to whatever queue
> > > object created at its own disposal.
> > >
> > > the uAPI just requires VMM to remember a sequential list of  allocated
> > > queue objects and destroy them in reverse order of allocation, instead
> > > of in the reverse order of virtual indexes.
> > 
> > But that's not going to work for VCMDQ.
> > 
> > VINTF mmaps only a single page that controls multiple queues. And
> > all queues have to be mapped correctly between HW and VM indexes.
> > Otherwise, it won't work if VMM maps:
> > 
> > HW-level VINTF1 LVCMDQ0 <==> VM-level VINTF0 LVCMDQ1
> > HW-level VINTF1 LVCMDQ1 <==> VM-level VINTF0 LVCMDQ0
> > 
> > So, one way or another, kernel has to ensure the static mappings
> > of the indexes. And I think it's safer in the way that VMM tells
> > what index to allocate..
> > 
> 
> Okay, that's a valid point.
> 
> But hey, we are already adding various restrictions to the uAPI
> about dependency, contiguity, etc. which the VMM should conform
> to. What hurts if we further say that the VMM should allocate
> virtual index in an ascending order along with hw queue allocation?

You mean adding another flag to manage the dependency in the core,
right?

I talked with Jason offline when adding that depend API. He didn't
want it to be in the core, saying that is a driver thing.

But that was before we added pin and contiguity, which he doesn't
really enjoy being in the core either.

So, yea, I think you have a point here..

@Jason?

Thanks
Nicolin

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