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Message-ID: <8e2c5349-571d-4436-a10e-ae1a50ed6b1f@linux.intel.com>
Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 10:47:21 -0400
From: "Liang, Kan" <kan.liang@...ux.intel.com>
To: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>
Cc: peterz@...radead.org, mingo@...hat.com, irogers@...gle.com,
mark.rutland@....com, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
linux-perf-users@...r.kernel.org, eranian@...gle.com, ctshao@...gle.com,
tmricht@...ux.ibm.com, leo.yan@....com
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 02/16] perf: Fix the throttle logic for a group
On 2025-05-18 3:18 p.m., Namhyung Kim wrote:
> Hi Kan,
>
> On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 11:28:39AM -0700, kan.liang@...ux.intel.com wrote:
>> From: Kan Liang <kan.liang@...ux.intel.com>
>>
>> The current throttle logic doesn't work well with a group, e.g., the
>> following sampling-read case.
>>
>> $ perf record -e "{cycles,cycles}:S" ...
>>
>> $ perf report -D | grep THROTTLE | tail -2
>> THROTTLE events: 426 ( 9.0%)
>> UNTHROTTLE events: 425 ( 9.0%)
>>
>> $ perf report -D | grep PERF_RECORD_SAMPLE -a4 | tail -n 5
>> 0 1020120874009167 0x74970 [0x68]: PERF_RECORD_SAMPLE(IP, 0x1):
>> ... sample_read:
>> .... group nr 2
>> ..... id 0000000000000327, value 000000000cbb993a, lost 0
>> ..... id 0000000000000328, value 00000002211c26df, lost 0
>>
>> The second cycles event has a much larger value than the first cycles
>> event in the same group.
>>
>> The current throttle logic in the generic code only logs the THROTTLE
>> event. It relies on the specific driver implementation to disable
>> events. For all ARCHs, the implementation is similar. Only the event is
>> disabled, rather than the group.
>>
>> The logic to disable the group should be generic for all ARCHs. Add the
>> logic in the generic code. The following patch will remove the buggy
>> driver-specific implementation.
>>
>> The throttle only happens when an event is overflowed. Stop the entire
>> group when any event in the group triggers the throttle.
>> The MAX_INTERRUPTS is set to all throttle events.
>>
>> The unthrottled could happen in 3 places.
>> - event/group sched. All events in the group are scheduled one by one.
>> All of them will be unthrottled eventually. Nothing needs to be
>> changed.
>> - The perf_adjust_freq_unthr_events for each tick. Needs to restart the
>> group altogether.
>> - The __perf_event_period(). The whole group needs to be restarted
>> altogether as well.
>>
>> With the fix,
>> $ sudo perf report -D | grep PERF_RECORD_SAMPLE -a4 | tail -n 5
>> 0 3573470770332 0x12f5f8 [0x70]: PERF_RECORD_SAMPLE(IP, 0x2):
>> ... sample_read:
>> .... group nr 2
>> ..... id 0000000000000a28, value 00000004fd3dfd8f, lost 0
>> ..... id 0000000000000a29, value 00000004fd3dfd8f, lost 0
>
> Thanks for working on this!
>
>>
>> Suggested-by: Peter Zijlstra (Intel) <peterz@...radead.org>
>> Signed-off-by: Kan Liang <kan.liang@...ux.intel.com>
>> ---
>> kernel/events/core.c | 60 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------------
>> 1 file changed, 44 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/kernel/events/core.c b/kernel/events/core.c
>> index af78ec118e8f..52490c2ce45b 100644
>> --- a/kernel/events/core.c
>> +++ b/kernel/events/core.c
>> @@ -2739,6 +2739,39 @@ void perf_event_disable_inatomic(struct perf_event *event)
>> static void perf_log_throttle(struct perf_event *event, int enable);
>> static void perf_log_itrace_start(struct perf_event *event);
>>
>> +static void perf_event_unthrottle(struct perf_event *event, bool start)
>> +{
>> + event->hw.interrupts = 0;
>> + if (start)
>> + event->pmu->start(event, 0);
>> + perf_log_throttle(event, 1);
>> +}
>> +
>> +static void perf_event_throttle(struct perf_event *event)
>> +{
>> + event->pmu->stop(event, 0);
>> + event->hw.interrupts = MAX_INTERRUPTS;
>> + perf_log_throttle(event, 0);
>> +}
>> +
>> +static void perf_event_unthrottle_group(struct perf_event *event, bool skip_start_event)
>> +{
>> + struct perf_event *sibling, *leader = event->group_leader;
>> +
>> + perf_event_unthrottle(leader, skip_start_event ? leader != event : true);
>> + for_each_sibling_event(sibling, leader)
>> + perf_event_unthrottle(sibling, skip_start_event ? sibling != event : true);
>
> This will add more PERF_RECORD_THROTTLE records for sibling events.
Yes
> Maybe we can generate it for the actual target event only?
The current code cannot track the actual target event for unthrottle.
Because the MAX_INTERRUPTS are set for all events when event_throttle.
But I think we can only add a PERF_RECORD_THROTTLE record for the leader
event, which can reduce the number of THROTTLE records.
The sample right after the THROTTLE record must be generated by the
actual target event. I think it should be good enough for the perf tool
to locate the event.
I will add the below patch as a separate improvement in V4.
diff --git a/kernel/events/core.c b/kernel/events/core.c
index 52490c2ce45b..cd559501cfbd 100644
--- a/kernel/events/core.c
+++ b/kernel/events/core.c
@@ -2744,14 +2744,16 @@ static void perf_event_unthrottle(struct
perf_event *event, bool start)
event->hw.interrupts = 0;
if (start)
event->pmu->start(event, 0);
- perf_log_throttle(event, 1);
+ if (event == event->group_leader)
+ perf_log_throttle(event, 1);
}
static void perf_event_throttle(struct perf_event *event)
{
event->pmu->stop(event, 0);
event->hw.interrupts = MAX_INTERRUPTS;
- perf_log_throttle(event, 0);
+ if (event == event->group_leader)
+ perf_log_throttle(event, 0);
}
>
> Also the condition for skip_start_event is if it's a freq event.
> I think we can skip pmu->start() if the sibling is also a freq event.
The skip_start_event is if it will be start later separately. It intends
to avoid the double start.
In the perf_adjust_freq_unthr_events(), it will only adjust and start
the leader event, not group. If we skip pmu->start() for a freq sibling
event, it will not start until the next context switch.
Thanks,
Kan
> I remember KVM folks concern about the number of PMU accesses as it
> can cause VM exits.
>
> Thanks,
> Namhyung
>
>> +}
>> +
>> +static void perf_event_throttle_group(struct perf_event *event)
>> +{
>> + struct perf_event *sibling, *leader = event->group_leader;
>> +
>> + perf_event_throttle(leader);
>> + for_each_sibling_event(sibling, leader)
>> + perf_event_throttle(sibling);
>> +}
>> +
>> static int
>> event_sched_in(struct perf_event *event, struct perf_event_context *ctx)
>> {
>> @@ -4393,12 +4426,8 @@ static void perf_adjust_freq_unthr_events(struct list_head *event_list)
>>
>> hwc = &event->hw;
>>
>> - if (hwc->interrupts == MAX_INTERRUPTS) {
>> - hwc->interrupts = 0;
>> - perf_log_throttle(event, 1);
>> - if (!is_event_in_freq_mode(event))
>> - event->pmu->start(event, 0);
>> - }
>> + if (hwc->interrupts == MAX_INTERRUPTS)
>> + perf_event_unthrottle_group(event, is_event_in_freq_mode(event));
>>
>> if (!is_event_in_freq_mode(event))
>> continue;
>> @@ -6426,14 +6455,6 @@ static void __perf_event_period(struct perf_event *event,
>> active = (event->state == PERF_EVENT_STATE_ACTIVE);
>> if (active) {
>> perf_pmu_disable(event->pmu);
>> - /*
>> - * We could be throttled; unthrottle now to avoid the tick
>> - * trying to unthrottle while we already re-started the event.
>> - */
>> - if (event->hw.interrupts == MAX_INTERRUPTS) {
>> - event->hw.interrupts = 0;
>> - perf_log_throttle(event, 1);
>> - }
>> event->pmu->stop(event, PERF_EF_UPDATE);
>> }
>>
>> @@ -6441,6 +6462,14 @@ static void __perf_event_period(struct perf_event *event,
>>
>> if (active) {
>> event->pmu->start(event, PERF_EF_RELOAD);
>> + /*
>> + * Once the period is force-reset, the event starts immediately.
>> + * But the event/group could be throttled. Unthrottle the
>> + * event/group now to avoid the next tick trying to unthrottle
>> + * while we already re-started the event/group.
>> + */
>> + if (event->hw.interrupts == MAX_INTERRUPTS)
>> + perf_event_unthrottle_group(event, true);
>> perf_pmu_enable(event->pmu);
>> }
>> }
>> @@ -10331,8 +10360,7 @@ __perf_event_account_interrupt(struct perf_event *event, int throttle)
>> if (unlikely(throttle && hwc->interrupts >= max_samples_per_tick)) {
>> __this_cpu_inc(perf_throttled_count);
>> tick_dep_set_cpu(smp_processor_id(), TICK_DEP_BIT_PERF_EVENTS);
>> - hwc->interrupts = MAX_INTERRUPTS;
>> - perf_log_throttle(event, 0);
>> + perf_event_throttle_group(event);
>> ret = 1;
>> }
>>
>> --
>> 2.38.1
>>
>
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