linux-kernel - Re: Potential heapify performance issue in dm-vdo

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Message-ID: <aC7QsLCPEt9nm5Pd@visitorckw-System-Product-Name>
Date: Thu, 22 May 2025 15:22:24 +0800
From: Kuan-Wei Chiu <visitorckw@...il.com>
To: Matthew Sakai <msakai@...hat.com>
Cc: dm-devel@...ts.linux.dev, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	jserv@...s.ncku.edu.tw
Subject: Re: Potential heapify performance issue in dm-vdo

On Wed, May 21, 2025 at 02:57:26PM -0400, Matthew Sakai wrote:
> 
> 
> On 5/21/25 11:04 AM, Kuan-Wei Chiu wrote:
> > Hi Matthew,
> > 
> > Recently noticed that the current heapify method in min_heap.h may
> > degrade performance when the heap contains many compare-equal elements,
> > compared to the previous version.
> > 
> > In detail, the new heapify reduces the number of comparisons by about
> > 50% when all elements are distinct. However, when all elements are
> > equal, the comparison count can degrade from O(1) to O(log n).
> > 
> > I don't have enough domain knowledge of dm-vdo, so I'd like to ask
> > whether it uses heaps with many compare-equal elements. If so, I'll
> > work on fixing the issue.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Kuan-Wei
> 
> Hi Kuan-Wei,
> 
> dm-vdo uses heapify for two different operations, but in both cases we
> define heap elements that can never be equal to each other. So I think this
> is not an issue for dm-vdo. (We have not noticed any issues with this in our
> regular testing, either.)
>
Thanks for confirming that dm-vdo won't encounter this issue.

We observed a regression in bcache caused by this behavior, and Coly
was concerned that dm-vdo might be affected in a similar way.
Fortunately, that doesn't seem to be the case.

Regards,
Kuan-Wei