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Message-ID: <hplrd5gufo2feylgs4ieufticwemeteaaoilo2jllgauclua2c@o4erpizekm5y>
Date: Fri, 23 May 2025 13:11:42 -0400
From: Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@...ux.dev>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>
Cc: Naresh Kamboju <naresh.kamboju@...aro.org>, 
	linux-bcache@...r.kernel.org, open list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, 
	lkft-triage@...ts.linaro.org, Linux Regressions <regressions@...ts.linux.dev>, 
	Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@...aro.org>, Anders Roxell <anders.roxell@...aro.org>
Subject: Re: riscv gcc-13 allyesconfig error the frame size of 2064 bytes is
 larger than 2048 bytes [-Werror=frame-larger-than=]

On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 05:17:15PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Fri, May 23, 2025, at 16:08, Kent Overstreet wrote:
> > On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 03:49:54PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> >> On Fri, May 23, 2025, at 15:19, Naresh Kamboju wrote:
> >
> >> I reproduced the problem locally and found this to go down to
> >> 1440 bytes after I turn off KASAN_STACK. next-20250523 has
> >> some changes that take the number down further to 1136 with
> >> KASAN_STACK and or 1552 with KASAN_STACK.
> >> 
> >> I've turned bcachefs with kasan-stack on for my randconfig
> >> builds again to see if there are any remaining corner cases.
> >
> > Thanks for the numbers - that does still seem high, I'll have to have a
> > look with pahole.
> 
> I agree it's still larger than it should be: having more than
> a few hundred bytes on a function usually means that there is
> both the risk for actual overflow and general inefficiency if
> all the stack data gets accessed as well.
> 
> It's probably not actually structure data though, but a
> combination of effects:
> 
> - KASAN_STACK adds extra redzones for each variable
> - KASAN_STACK further prevents stack slots from getting
>   reused inside one function, in order to better pinpoint
>   which instance caused problems like out-of-scope access
> - passing structures by value causes them to be put on
>   the stack on some architectures, even when the structure
>   size is only one or two registers

We mainly do this with bkey_s_c, which is just two words: on x86_64,
that gets passed in registers. Is riscv different?

> - sanitizers turn off optimizations that lead to better
>   stack usage
> - in some cases, the missed optimization ends up causing
>   local variables to get spilled to the stack many times
>   because of a combination of all the above.

Yeesh.

I suspect we should be running with a larger stack when the sanitizers
are running, and perhaps tweak the warnings accordingly. I did a bunch
of stack usage work after I found a kmsan build was blowing out the
stack, but then running with max stack usage tracing enabled showed it
to be a largely non issue on non-sanitizer builds, IIRC.

> The good news is that so far my randconfig builds have not
> shown any more stack frame warnings on next-20230523 with
> bcachefs force-enabled, now 55 builds into the change,
> across arm32/arm64/x86 using gcc-15.1.

Good to know, thanks.

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