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Message-ID: <590641e8-35f0-43e5-985a-3912c126b4aa@redhat.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2025 09:45:47 +0200
From: David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@...cle.com>,
 Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc: Barry Song <baohua@...nel.org>, "Liam R . Howlett"
 <Liam.Howlett@...cle.com>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
 Mike Rapoport <rppt@...nel.org>, Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@...gle.com>,
 Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com>, Muchun Song <muchun.song@...ux.dev>,
 Oscar Salvador <osalvador@...e.de>, Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@...nel.org>,
 WANG Xuerui <kernel@...0n.name>, Jonas Bonn <jonas@...thpole.se>,
 Stefan Kristiansson <stefan.kristiansson@...nalahti.fi>,
 Stafford Horne <shorne@...il.com>, Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@...ive.com>,
 Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@...belt.com>, Albert Ou <aou@...s.berkeley.edu>,
 Alexandre Ghiti <alex@...ti.fr>, Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com>,
 loongarch@...ts.linux.dev, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
 linux-openrisc@...r.kernel.org, linux-riscv@...ts.infradead.org,
 linux-mm@...ck.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm/pagewalk: split walk_page_range_novma() into
 kernel/user parts

On 04.06.25 16:19, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> The walk_page_range_novma() function is rather confusing - it supports two
> modes, one used often, the other used only for debugging.
> 
> The first mode is the common case of traversal of kernel page tables, which
> is what nearly all callers use this for.
> 
> Secondly it provides an unusual debugging interface that allows for the
> traversal of page tables in a userland range of memory even for that memory
> which is not described by a VMA.
> 
> It is far from certain that such page tables should even exist, but perhaps
> this is precisely why it is useful as a debugging mechanism.
> 
> As a result, this is utilised by ptdump only. Historically, things were
> reversed - ptdump was the only user, and other parts of the kernel evolved
> to use the kernel page table walking here.
> 
> Since we have some complicated and confusing locking rules for the novma
> case, it makes sense to separate the two usages into their own functions.
> 
> Doing this also provide self-documentation as to the intent of the caller -
> are they doing something rather unusual or are they simply doing a standard
> kernel page table walk?
> 
> We therefore establish two separate functions - walk_page_range_debug() for
> this single usage, and walk_kernel_page_table_range() for general kernel
> page table walking.
> 
> We additionally make walk_page_range_debug() internal to mm.
> 
> Note that ptdump uses the precise same function for kernel walking as a
> convenience, so we permit this but make it very explicit by having
> walk_page_range_novma() invoke walk_kernel_page_table_range() in this case.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@...cle.com>
> Acked-by: Mike Rapoport (Microsoft) <rppt@...nel.org>
> ---


[...]

>   bool try_get_and_clear_pmd(struct mm_struct *mm, pmd_t *pmd, pmd_t *pmdval);
> diff --git a/mm/pagewalk.c b/mm/pagewalk.c
> index e478777c86e1..057a125c3bc0 100644
> --- a/mm/pagewalk.c
> +++ b/mm/pagewalk.c
> @@ -584,9 +584,28 @@ int walk_page_range(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long start,
>   	return walk_page_range_mm(mm, start, end, ops, private);
>   }
> 
> +static int __walk_page_range_novma(struct mm_struct *mm, unsigned long start,
> +		unsigned long end, const struct mm_walk_ops *ops,
> +		pgd_t *pgd, void *private)
> +{
> +	struct mm_walk walk = {
> +		.ops		= ops,
> +		.mm		= mm,
> +		.pgd		= pgd,
> +		.private	= private,
> +		.no_vma		= true
> +	};
> +
> +	if (start >= end || !walk.mm)
> +		return -EINVAL;
> +	if (!check_ops_valid(ops))
> +		return -EINVAL;

I'm wondering if that could be moved into walk_pgd_range().

> +
> +	return walk_pgd_range(start, end, &walk);
> +}
> +

I would inline that into both functions and finally get rid of that 
"novma" ... beauty of a function.

Well, we still have the "no_vma" parameter, but that's a different thing.

E.g.,, there is no need to check for walk.mm in the 
walk_kernel_page_table_range() case.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb


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