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Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2025 10:09:51 -0700
From: Fan Ni <nifan.cxl@...il.com>
To: Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@...el.com>
Cc: Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@...el.com>,
Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@...wei.com>,
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>,
Davidlohr Bueso <dave@...olabs.net>,
Alison Schofield <alison.schofield@...el.com>,
Vishal Verma <vishal.l.verma@...el.com>, linux-cxl@...r.kernel.org,
nvdimm@...ts.linux.dev, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
Li Ming <ming.li@...omail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 00/19] DCD: Add support for Dynamic Capacity Devices
(DCD)
On Tue, Jun 03, 2025 at 09:32:18AM -0700, Fan Ni wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 13, 2025 at 05:52:08PM -0500, Ira Weiny wrote:
> > A git tree of this series can be found here:
> >
> > https://github.com/weiny2/linux-kernel/tree/dcd-v6-2025-04-13
> >
> > This is now based on 6.15-rc2.
> >
> > Due to the stagnation of solid requirements for users of DCD I do not
> > plan to rev this work in Q2 of 2025 and possibly beyond.
> >
> > It is anticipated that this will support at least the initial
> > implementation of DCD devices, if and when they appear in the ecosystem.
> > The patch set should be reviewed with the limited set of functionality in
> > mind. Additional functionality can be added as devices support them.
> >
> > It is strongly encouraged for individuals or companies wishing to bring
> > DCD devices to market review this set with the customer use cases they
> > have in mind.
>
> Hi,
> I have a general question about DCD.
>
> How will the start dpa of the first region be set before any extent is
> offer to the hosts?
>
> In this series, no dpa gap (skip) is allowed between static capacity and
> dynamic capacity. That seems to imply some component that knows the layout
> of the host memory will need to set the start dpa of the first dc region?
> The firmware?
>
> Also, if a DC extent is shared among multiple hosts each of which has
> different memory configuration, how the dcd device provides the extents
> to each host to make sure there is no dpa gap between static and dynamic
> capacity range on all the hosts?
> It seems the start dpa of dcd needs to be different for each host. No sure how
> to achieve that.
>
> Fan
Ignore the above message, the question does not make sense.
Fan
>
> >
> > Series info
> > ===========
> >
> > This series has 2 parts:
> >
> > Patch 1-17: Core DCD support
> > Patch 18-19: cxl_test support
> >
> > Background
> > ==========
> >
> > A Dynamic Capacity Device (DCD) (CXL 3.1 sec 9.13.3) is a CXL memory
> > device that allows memory capacity within a region to change
> > dynamically without the need for resetting the device, reconfiguring
> > HDM decoders, or reconfiguring software DAX regions.
> >
> > One of the biggest anticipated use cases for Dynamic Capacity is to
> > allow hosts to dynamically add or remove memory from a host within a
> > data center without physically changing the per-host attached memory nor
> > rebooting the host.
> >
> > The general flow for the addition or removal of memory is to have an
> > orchestrator coordinate the use of the memory. Generally there are 5
> > actors in such a system, the Orchestrator, Fabric Manager, the Logical
> > device, the Host Kernel, and a Host User.
> >
> > An example work flow is shown below.
> >
> > Orchestrator FM Device Host Kernel Host User
> >
> > | | | | |
> > |-------------- Create region ------------------------>|
> > | | | | |
> > | | | |<-- Create ----|
> > | | | | Region |
> > | | | |(dynamic_ram_a)|
> > |<------------- Signal done ---------------------------|
> > | | | | |
> > |-- Add ----->|-- Add --->|--- Add --->| |
> > | Capacity | Extent | Extent | |
> > | | | | |
> > | |<- Accept -|<- Accept -| |
> > | | Extent | Extent | |
> > | | | |<- Create ---->|
> > | | | | DAX dev |-- Use memory
> > | | | | | |
> > | | | | | |
> > | | | |<- Release ----| <-+
> > | | | | DAX dev |
> > | | | | |
> > |<------------- Signal done ---------------------------|
> > | | | | |
> > |-- Remove -->|- Release->|- Release ->| |
> > | Capacity | Extent | Extent | |
> > | | | | |
> > | |<- Release-|<- Release -| |
> > | | Extent | Extent | |
> > | | | | |
> > |-- Add ----->|-- Add --->|--- Add --->| |
> > | Capacity | Extent | Extent | |
> > | | | | |
> > | |<- Accept -|<- Accept -| |
> > | | Extent | Extent | |
> > | | | |<- Create -----|
> > | | | | DAX dev |-- Use memory
> > | | | | | |
> > | | | |<- Release ----| <-+
> > | | | | DAX dev |
> > |<------------- Signal done ---------------------------|
> > | | | | |
> > |-- Remove -->|- Release->|- Release ->| |
> > | Capacity | Extent | Extent | |
> > | | | | |
> > | |<- Release-|<- Release -| |
> > | | Extent | Extent | |
> > | | | | |
> > |-- Add ----->|-- Add --->|--- Add --->| |
> > | Capacity | Extent | Extent | |
> > | | | |<- Create -----|
> > | | | | DAX dev |-- Use memory
> > | | | | | |
> > |-- Remove -->|- Release->|- Release ->| | |
> > | Capacity | Extent | Extent | | |
> > | | | | | |
> > | | | (Release Ignored) | |
> > | | | | | |
> > | | | |<- Release ----| <-+
> > | | | | DAX dev |
> > |<------------- Signal done ---------------------------|
> > | | | | |
> > | |- Release->|- Release ->| |
> > | | Extent | Extent | |
> > | | | | |
> > | |<- Release-|<- Release -| |
> > | | Extent | Extent | |
> > | | | |<- Destroy ----|
> > | | | | Region |
> > | | | | |
> >
> > Implementation
> > ==============
> >
> > This series requires the creation of regions and DAX devices to be
> > closely synchronized with the Orchestrator and Fabric Manager. The host
> > kernel will reject extents if a region is not yet created. It also
> > ignores extent release if memory is in use (DAX device created). These
> > synchronizations are not anticipated to be an issue with real
> > applications.
> >
> > Only a single dynamic ram partition is supported (dynamic_ram_a). The
> > requirements, use cases, and existence of actual hardware devices to
> > support more than one DC partition is unknown at this time. So a less
> > complex implementation was chosen.
> >
> > In order to allow for capacity to be added and removed a new concept of
> > a sparse DAX region is introduced. A sparse DAX region may have 0 or
> > more bytes of available space. The total space depends on the number
> > and size of the extents which have been added.
> >
> > It is anticipated that users of the memory will carefully coordinate the
> > surfacing of capacity with the creation of DAX devices which use that
> > capacity. Therefore, the allocation of the memory to DAX devices does
> > not allow for specific associations between DAX device and extent. This
> > keeps allocations of DAX devices similar to existing DAX region
> > behavior.
> >
> > To keep the DAX memory allocation aligned with the existing DAX devices
> > which do not have tags, extents are not allowed to have tags in this
> > implementation. Future support for tags can be added when real use
> > cases surface.
> >
> > Great care was taken to keep the extent tracking simple. Some xarray's
> > needed to be added but extra software objects are kept to a minimum.
> >
> > Region extents are tracked as sub-devices of the DAX region. This
> > ensures that region destruction cleans up all extent allocations
> > properly.
> >
> > The major functionality of this series includes:
> >
> > - Getting the dynamic capacity (DC) configuration information from cxl
> > devices
> >
> > - Configuring a DC partition found in hardware.
> >
> > - Enhancing the CXL and DAX regions for dynamic capacity support
> > a. Maintain a logical separation between hardware extents and
> > software managed extents. This provides an abstraction
> > between the layers and should allow for interleaving in the
> > future
> >
> > - Get existing hardware extent lists for endpoint decoders upon region
> > creation.
> >
> > - Respond to DC capacity events and adjust available region memory.
> > a. Add capacity Events
> > b. Release capacity events
> >
> > - Host response for add capacity
> > a. do not accept the extent if:
> > If the region does not exist
> > or an error occurs realizing the extent
> > b. If the region does exist
> > realize a DAX region extent with 1:1 mapping (no
> > interleave yet)
> > c. Support the event more bit by processing a list of extents
> > marked with the more bit together before setting up a
> > response.
> >
> > - Host response for remove capacity
> > a. If no DAX device references the extent; release the extent
> > b. If a reference does exist, ignore the request.
> > (Require FM to issue release again.)
> > c. Release extents flagged with the 'more' bit individually as
> > the specification allows for the asynchronous release of
> > memory and the implementation is simplified by doing so.
> >
> > - Modify DAX device creation/resize to account for extents within a
> > sparse DAX region
> >
> > - Trace Dynamic Capacity events for debugging
> >
> > - Add cxl-test infrastructure to allow for faster unit testing
> > (See new ndctl branch for cxl-dcd.sh test[1])
> >
> > - Only support 0 value extent tags
> >
> > Fan Ni's upstream of Qemu DCD was used for testing.
> >
> > Remaining work:
> >
> > 1) Allow mapping to specific extents (perhaps based on
> > label/tag)
> > 1a) devise region size reporting based on tags
> > 2) Interleave support
> >
> > Possible additional work depending on requirements:
> >
> > 1) Accept a new extent which extends (but overlaps) already
> > accepted extent(s)
> > 2) Rework DAX device interfaces, memfd has been explored a bit
> > 3) Support more than 1 DC partition
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/weiny2/ndctl/tree/dcd-region3-2025-04-13
> >
> > ---
> > Changes in v9:
> > - djbw: pare down support to only a single DC parition
> > - djbw: adjust to the new core partition processing which aligns with
> > new type2 work.
> > - iweiny: address smaller comments from v8
> > - iweiny: rebase off of 6.15-rc1
> > - Link to v8: https://patch.msgid.link/20241210-dcd-type2-upstream-v8-0-812852504400@intel.com
> >
> > ---
> > Ira Weiny (19):
> > cxl/mbox: Flag support for Dynamic Capacity Devices (DCD)
> > cxl/mem: Read dynamic capacity configuration from the device
> > cxl/cdat: Gather DSMAS data for DCD partitions
> > cxl/core: Enforce partition order/simplify partition calls
> > cxl/mem: Expose dynamic ram A partition in sysfs
> > cxl/port: Add 'dynamic_ram_a' to endpoint decoder mode
> > cxl/region: Add sparse DAX region support
> > cxl/events: Split event msgnum configuration from irq setup
> > cxl/pci: Factor out interrupt policy check
> > cxl/mem: Configure dynamic capacity interrupts
> > cxl/core: Return endpoint decoder information from region search
> > cxl/extent: Process dynamic partition events and realize region extents
> > cxl/region/extent: Expose region extent information in sysfs
> > dax/bus: Factor out dev dax resize logic
> > dax/region: Create resources on sparse DAX regions
> > cxl/region: Read existing extents on region creation
> > cxl/mem: Trace Dynamic capacity Event Record
> > tools/testing/cxl: Make event logs dynamic
> > tools/testing/cxl: Add DC Regions to mock mem data
> >
> > Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-bus-cxl | 100 ++-
> > drivers/cxl/core/Makefile | 2 +-
> > drivers/cxl/core/cdat.c | 11 +
> > drivers/cxl/core/core.h | 33 +-
> > drivers/cxl/core/extent.c | 495 +++++++++++++++
> > drivers/cxl/core/hdm.c | 13 +-
> > drivers/cxl/core/mbox.c | 632 ++++++++++++++++++-
> > drivers/cxl/core/memdev.c | 87 ++-
> > drivers/cxl/core/port.c | 5 +
> > drivers/cxl/core/region.c | 76 ++-
> > drivers/cxl/core/trace.h | 65 ++
> > drivers/cxl/cxl.h | 61 +-
> > drivers/cxl/cxlmem.h | 134 +++-
> > drivers/cxl/mem.c | 2 +-
> > drivers/cxl/pci.c | 115 +++-
> > drivers/dax/bus.c | 356 +++++++++--
> > drivers/dax/bus.h | 4 +-
> > drivers/dax/cxl.c | 71 ++-
> > drivers/dax/dax-private.h | 40 ++
> > drivers/dax/hmem/hmem.c | 2 +-
> > drivers/dax/pmem.c | 2 +-
> > include/cxl/event.h | 31 +
> > include/linux/ioport.h | 3 +
> > tools/testing/cxl/Kbuild | 3 +-
> > tools/testing/cxl/test/mem.c | 1021 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++----
> > 25 files changed, 3102 insertions(+), 262 deletions(-)
> > ---
> > base-commit: 8ffd015db85fea3e15a77027fda6c02ced4d2444
> > change-id: 20230604-dcd-type2-upstream-0cd15f6216fd
> >
> > Best regards,
> > --
> > Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@...el.com>
> >
>
> --
> Fan Ni
--
Fan Ni
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