Message-ID: <aEhgNU80Dr9iRwoD@kernel.org>
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2025 19:41:25 +0300
From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@...nel.org>
To: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@...een.com>
Cc: Pratyush Yadav <pratyush@...nel.org>, Alexander Graf <graf@...zon.com>,
	Changyuan Lyu <changyuanl@...gle.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Baoquan He <bhe@...hat.com>, kexec@...ts.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-mm@...ck.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kho: initialize tail pages for higher order folios
 properly

On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 07:20:23AM -0400, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 1:44 AM Mike Rapoport <rppt@...nel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 09, 2025 at 04:07:50PM -0400, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jun 9, 2025 at 3:36 PM Mike Rapoport <rppt@...nel.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Pratyush,
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jun 06, 2025 at 06:23:06PM +0200, Pratyush Yadav wrote:
> > > > > Hi Mike,
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Jun 06 2025, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Jun 05, 2025 at 07:11:41PM +0200, Pratyush Yadav wrote:
> > > > > >> From: Pratyush Yadav <ptyadav@...zon.de>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> --- a/kernel/kexec_handover.c
> > > > > >> +++ b/kernel/kexec_handover.c
> > > > > >> @@ -157,11 +157,21 @@ static int __kho_preserve_order(struct kho_mem_track *track, unsigned long pfn,
> > > > > >>  }
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>  /* almost as free_reserved_page(), just don't free the page */
> > > > > >> -static void kho_restore_page(struct page *page)
> > > > > >> +static void kho_restore_page(struct page *page, unsigned int order)
> > > > > >>  {
> > > > > >> -  ClearPageReserved(page);
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So now we don't clear PG_Reserved even on order-0 pages? ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > We don't need to. As I mentioned in the commit message as well,
> > > > > PG_Reserved is never set for KHO pages since they are reserved with
> > > > > MEMBLOCK_RSRV_NOINIT, so memmap_init_reserved_pages() skips over them.
> > > >
> > > > You are right, I missed it.
> > > >
> > > > > That said, while reading through some of the code, I noticed another
> > > > > bug: because KHO reserves the preserved pages as NOINIT, with
> > > > > CONFIG_DEFERRED_STRUCT_PAGE_INIT == n, all the pages get initialized
> > > > > when memmap_init_range() is called from setup_arch (paging_init() on
> > > > > x86). This happens before kho_memory_init(), so the KHO-preserved pages
> > > > > are not marked as reserved to memblock yet.
> > > > >
> > > > > With deferred page init, some pages might not get initialized early, and
> > > > > get initialized after kho_memory_init(), by which time the KHO-preserved
> > > > > pages are marked as reserved. So, deferred_init_maxorder() will skip
> > > > > over those pages and leave them uninitialized.
> > > > >
> > > > > So we need to either also call init_deferred_page(), or remove the
> > > > > memblock_reserved_mark_noinit() call in deserialize_bitmap(). And TBH, I
> > > > > am not sure why KHO pages even need to be marked noinit in the first
> > > > > place. Probably the only benefit would be if a large chunk of memory is
> > > > > KHO-preserved, the pages can be initialized later on-demand, reducing
> > > > > bootup time a bit.
> > > >
> > > > One benefit is performance indeed, because in not deferred case the
> > > > initialization of reserved pages in memmap_init_reserved_pages() is really
> > > > excessive.
> > > >
> > > > But more importantly, if we remove memblock_reserved_mark_noinit(), with
> > > > CONFIG_DEFERRED_STRUCT_PAGE_INIT we'd loose page->private because the
> > > > struct page will be cleared after kho_mem_deserialize().
> > > >
> > > > > What do you think? Should we drop noinit or call init_deferred_page()?
> > > > > FWIW, my preference is to drop noinit, since init_deferred_page() is
> > > > > __meminit and we would have to make sure it doesn't go away after boot.
> > > >
> > > > We can't drop noinit and calling init_deferred_page() after boot just won't
> > > > work because it uses memblock to find the page's node and memblock is gone
> > > > after init.
> > > >
> > > > The simplest short-term solution is to disable KHO when
> > > > CONFIG_DEFERRED_STRUCT_PAGE_INIT is set and then find an efficient way to
> > > > make it all work together.
> > >
> > > This is what I've done in LUOv3 WIP:
> > > https://github.com/soleen/linux/commit/3059f38ac0a39a397873759fb429bd5d1f8ea681
> >
> > I think it should be the other way around, KHO should depend on
> > !DEFERRED_STRUCT_PAGE_INIT.
> 
> Agreed, and this is what I first tried, but that does not work, there
> is some circular dependency breaking the build. If you feel
> adventurous you can try that :-)

Hmm, weird, worked for me :/
 
> > > We will need to teah KHO to work with deferred struct page init. I
> > > suspect, we could init preserved struct pages and then skip over them
> > > during deferred init.
> >
> > We could, but with that would mean we'll run this before SMP and it's not
> > desirable. Also, init_deferred_page() for a random page requires
> 
> We already run KHO init before smp_init:
> start_kernel() -> mm_core_init() -> kho_memory_init() ->
> kho_restore_folio() -> struct pages must be already initialized here!
> 
> While deferred struct pages are initialized:
> start_kernel() -> rest_init() -> kernel_init() ->
> kernel_init_freeable() -> page_alloc_init_late() ->
> deferred_init_memmap()
> 
> If the number of preserved pages that is needed during early boot is
> relatively small, that it should not be an issue to pre-initialize
> struct pages for them before deferred struct pages are initialized. We
> already pre-initialize some  "struct pages" that are needed during
> early boot before the reset are initialized, see deferred_grow_zone()

deferred_grow_zone() takes a chunk in the beginning of uninitialized range,
with kho we are talking about some random pages. If we preinit them early,
deferred_init_memmap() will overwrite them.

Anyway, I'm going to look into it, hopefully I'll have something Really
Soon (tm).
 
> Pasha

-- 
Sincerely yours,
Mike.

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