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Message-ID: <3gvuqzzyhiz5is42h4rbvqx43q4axmo7ehubomijvbr5k25xgb@pwjvfuttjegk>
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2025 18:23:01 +0200
From: Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>
To: Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@...il.com>
Cc: Luis Henriques <luis@...lia.com>, 
	Alexander Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>, Christian Brauner <brauner@...nel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>, 
	linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, kernel-dev@...lia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fs: drop assert in file_seek_cur_needs_f_lock

On Thu 12-06-25 15:55:40, Mateusz Guzik wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 10:41:01AM +0100, Luis Henriques wrote:
> > The assert in function file_seek_cur_needs_f_lock() can be triggered very
> > easily because, as Jan Kara suggested, the file reference may get
> > incremented after checking it with fdget_pos().
> > 
> > Fixes: da06e3c51794 ("fs: don't needlessly acquire f_lock")
> > Signed-off-by: Luis Henriques <luis@...lia.com>
> > ---
> > Hi Christian,
> > 
> > It wasn't clear whether you'd be queueing this fix yourself.  Since I don't
> > see it on vfs.git, I decided to explicitly send the patch so that it doesn't
> > slip through the cracks.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > -- 
> > Luis
> > 
> >  fs/file.c | 2 --
> >  1 file changed, 2 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/fs/file.c b/fs/file.c
> > index 3a3146664cf3..075f07bdc977 100644
> > --- a/fs/file.c
> > +++ b/fs/file.c
> > @@ -1198,8 +1198,6 @@ bool file_seek_cur_needs_f_lock(struct file *file)
> >  	if (!(file->f_mode & FMODE_ATOMIC_POS) && !file->f_op->iterate_shared)
> >  		return false;
> >  
> > -	VFS_WARN_ON_ONCE((file_count(file) > 1) &&
> > -			 !mutex_is_locked(&file->f_pos_lock));
> >  	return true;
> >  }
> 
> fdget_pos() can only legally skip locking if it determines to be in
> position where nobody else can operate on the same file obj, meaning
> file_count(file) == 1 and it can't go up. Otherwise the lock is taken.
> 
> Or to put it differently, fdget_pos() NOT taking the lock and new refs
> showing up later is a bug.

I mostly agree and as I've checked again, this indeed seems to be the case
as fdget() will increment f_ref if file table is shared with another thread
and thus file_needs_f_pos_lock() returns true whenever there are more
threads sharing the file table or if the struct file is dupped to another
fd. That being said I find the assertion in file_seek_cur_needs_f_lock()
misplaced - it just doesn't make sense in that place to me.
 
> I don't believe anything of the sort is happening here.
> 
> Instead, overlayfs is playing games and *NOT* going through fdget_pos():
> 
> 	ovl_inode_lock(inode);
>         realfile = ovl_real_file(file);
> 	[..]
>         ret = vfs_llseek(realfile, offset, whence);
> 
> Given the custom inode locking around the call, it may be any other
> locking is unnecessary and the code happens to be correct despite the
> splat.

Right and good spotting. That's indeed more likely explanation than mine.
Actually custom locking around llseek isn't all that uncommon (mostly for
historical reasons AFAIK but that's another story).

> I think the safest way out with some future-proofing is to in fact *add*
> the locking in ovl_llseek() to shut up the assert -- personally I find
> it uneasy there is some underlying file obj flying around.

Well, if you grep for vfs_llseek(), you'll see there are much more calls to
it in the kernel than overlayfs. These callers outside of fs/read_write.c
are responsible for their locking. So I don't think keeping the assert in
file_seek_cur_needs_f_lock() makes any sense. If anything I'd be open to
putting it in fdput_pos() or something like that.

> Even if ultimately the assert has to go, the proposed commit message
> does not justify it.

I guess the commit message could be improved. Something like:

The assert in function file_seek_cur_needs_f_lock() can be triggered very
easily because there are many users of vfs_llseek() (such as overlayfs)
that do their custom locking around llseek instead of relying on
fdget_pos(). Just drop the overzealous assertion.

								Honza

-- 
Jan Kara <jack@...e.com>
SUSE Labs, CR

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