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Message-ID: <20250614151844.50524610@jic23-huawei>
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2025 15:18:44 +0100
From: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@...nel.org>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/28] iio: zero init stack with { } instead of memset()

On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 13:18:44 +0100
Jonathan Cameron <jic23@...nel.org> wrote:

> On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 08:47:25 +0200
> Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu 2025-06-12 22:10:07, Andy Shevchenko wrote:  
> > > On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 08:54:07PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:    
> > > > > On Thursday, 12 June 2025 11:17:52 Central European Summer Time Pavel Machek wrote:    
> > > > > >     
> > > > > > > Jonathan mentioned recently that he would like to get away from using
> > > > > > > memset() to zero-initialize stack memory in the IIO subsystem. And we
> > > > > > > have it on good authority that initializing a struct or array with = { }
> > > > > > > is the preferred way to do this in the kernel [1]. So here is a series
> > > > > > > to take care of that.    
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 1) Is it worth the churn?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 2) Will this fail to initialize padding with some obscure compiler?    
> > > > > 
> > > > > as of right now, the only two C compilers that are supported are
> > > > > GCC >= 8.1, and Clang >= 13.0.1. If anyone even manages to get the
> > > > > kernel    
> > > > 
> > > > Well... I'm pretty sure parts of this would make it into -stable as a
> > > > dependency, or because AUTOSEL decides it is a bugfix. So..
> > > > 
> > > > GNU C                  4.9              gcc --version
> > > > Clang/LLVM (optional)  10.0.1           clang --version    
> > > 
> > > Even though, what the kernel versions are you referring to? I am sure there
> > > plenty of cases with {} there.    
> > 
> > 5.10, for example. I'm sure they are, uninitialized padding is a
> > security hole, but rather hard to detect if they are not specifically
> > looking.  
> 
> The stack kunit test is there back to 5.0-rc4 
> 50ceaa95ea09 ("lib: Introduce test_stackinit module")
> 
> So I think we should be pretty well defended against issues.
> 
> Hence I plan to pick this up curently.
> 
> Thanks all for inputs on this.
> 
> Fun corners of the C spec vs implementations!
> 
> Jonathan
> 
I want to give this some testing exposure from 0-day etc in case
we missed any build related issues so I've queued it up on my testing branch.
I can still pick up tags / rebase etc for now.

Thanks,

Jonathan

> > 
> > BR,
> > 								Pavel  
> 
> 


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