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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 13:45:40 -0500
From: Mario Limonciello <superm1@...nel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 6/6] vgaarb: Look at all PCI display devices in VGA
 arbiter

On 6/18/2025 9:12 AM, Simona Vetter wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2025 at 11:11:26AM +0200, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> Am 17.06.25 um 22:22 schrieb Mario Limonciello:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/17/25 2:22 PM, Alex Williamson wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 12:59:10 -0500
>>>> Mario Limonciello <superm1@...nel.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@....com>
>>>>>
>>>>> On a mobile system with an AMD integrated GPU + NVIDIA discrete GPU the
>>>>> AMD GPU is not being selected by some desktop environments for any
>>>>> rendering tasks. This is because neither GPU is being treated as
>>>>> "boot_vga" but that is what some environments use to select a GPU [1].
>>>>>
>>>>> The VGA arbiter driver only looks at devices that report as PCI display
>>>>> VGA class devices. Neither GPU on the system is a PCI display VGA class
>>>>> device:
>>>>>
>>>>> c5:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 2db9 (rev a1)
>>>>> c6:00.0 Display controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
>>>>> [AMD/ATI] Device 150e (rev d1)
>>>>>
>>>>> If the GPUs were looked at the vga_is_firmware_default()
>>>>> function actually
>>>>> does do a good job at recognizing the case from the device used for the
>>>>> firmware framebuffer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Modify the VGA arbiter code and matching sysfs file entries to
>>>>> examine all
>>>>> PCI display class devices. The existing logic stays the same.
>>>>>
>>>>> This will cause all GPUs to gain a `boot_vga` file, but the
>>>>> correct device
>>>>> (AMD GPU in this case) will now show `1` and the incorrect
>>>>> device shows `0`.
>>>>> Userspace then picks the right device as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Link: https://github.com/robherring/libpciaccess/commit/b2838fb61c3542f107014b285cbda097acae1e12
>>>>> [1]
>>>>> Suggested-by: Daniel Dadap <ddadap@...dia.com>
>>>>> Acked-by: Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@...e.de>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@....com>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>    drivers/pci/pci-sysfs.c | 2 +-
>>>>>    drivers/pci/vgaarb.c    | 8 ++++----
>>>>>    2 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/drivers/pci/pci-sysfs.c b/drivers/pci/pci-sysfs.c
>>>>> index 268c69daa4d57..c314ee1b3f9ac 100644
>>>>> --- a/drivers/pci/pci-sysfs.c
>>>>> +++ b/drivers/pci/pci-sysfs.c
>>>>> @@ -1707,7 +1707,7 @@ static umode_t
>>>>> pci_dev_attrs_are_visible(struct kobject *kobj,
>>>>>        struct device *dev = kobj_to_dev(kobj);
>>>>>        struct pci_dev *pdev = to_pci_dev(dev);
>>>>>    -    if (a == &dev_attr_boot_vga.attr && pci_is_vga(pdev))
>>>>> +    if (a == &dev_attr_boot_vga.attr && pci_is_display(pdev))
>>>>>            return a->mode;
>>>>>          return 0;
>>>>> diff --git a/drivers/pci/vgaarb.c b/drivers/pci/vgaarb.c
>>>>> index 78748e8d2dbae..63216e5787d73 100644
>>>>> --- a/drivers/pci/vgaarb.c
>>>>> +++ b/drivers/pci/vgaarb.c
>>>>> @@ -1499,8 +1499,8 @@ static int pci_notify(struct
>>>>> notifier_block *nb, unsigned long action,
>>>>>          vgaarb_dbg(dev, "%s\n", __func__);
>>>>>    -    /* Only deal with VGA class devices */
>>>>> -    if (!pci_is_vga(pdev))
>>>>> +    /* Only deal with PCI display class devices */
>>>>> +    if (!pci_is_display(pdev))
>>>>>            return 0;
>>>>>          /*
>>>>> @@ -1546,12 +1546,12 @@ static int __init vga_arb_device_init(void)
>>>>>          bus_register_notifier(&pci_bus_type, &pci_notifier);
>>>>>    -    /* Add all VGA class PCI devices by default */
>>>>> +    /* Add all PCI display class devices by default */
>>>>>        pdev = NULL;
>>>>>        while ((pdev =
>>>>>            pci_get_subsys(PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID,
>>>>>                       PCI_ANY_ID, pdev)) != NULL) {
>>>>> -        if (pci_is_vga(pdev))
>>>>> +        if (pci_is_display(pdev))
>>>>>                vga_arbiter_add_pci_device(pdev);
>>>>>        }
>>>>
>>>> At the very least a non-VGA device should not mark that it decodes
>>>> legacy resources, marking the boot VGA device is only a part of what
>>>> the VGA arbiter does.  It seems none of the actual VGA arbitration
>>>> interfaces have been considered here though.
>>>>
>>>> I still think this is a bad idea and I'm not sure Thomas didn't
>>>> withdraw his ack in the previous round[1].  Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ah; I didn't realize that was intended to be a withdrawl.
>>> If there's another version of this I'll remove it.
>>
>> Then let me formally withdraw the A-b.
>>
>> I think this updated patch doesn't address the concerns raised in the
>> previous reviews. AFAIU vgaarb is really only about VGA devices.
> 
> I missed the earlier version, but wanted to chime in that I concur. vgaarb
> is about vga decoding, and modern gpu drivers are trying pretty hard to
> disable that since it can cause pain. If we mix in the meaning of "default
> display device" into this, we have a mess.
> 
> I guess what does make sense is if the kernel exposes its notion of
> "default display device", since we do have that in some sense with
> simpledrm. At least on systems where simpledrm is a thing, but I think you
> need some really old machines for that to not be the case.
> 
> Cheers, Sima

Thanks guys.  Let's discard patch 6.  Here's a spin of an approach for 
userspace that does something similar to what the compositors are doing.
We can iterate on that.

https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/lib/libpciaccess/-/merge_requests/38

I think patches 1-5 still are valuable though.  So please add reviews to 
those and we can take those without patch 6 if there is agreement.

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