lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <aGReLaCleEjzu-nt@lappy>
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2025 18:16:13 -0400
From: Sasha Levin <sashal@...nel.org>
To: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>
Cc: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@...nel.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-doc@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-api@...r.kernel.org, workflows@...r.kernel.org,
	tools@...nel.org, Kate Stewart <kstewart@...uxfoundation.org>,
	Gabriele Paoloni <gpaoloni@...hat.com>,
	Chuck Wolber <chuckwolber@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 01/22] kernel/api: introduce kernel API specification
 framework

On Tue, Jul 01, 2025 at 03:43:32PM -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
>Sasha Levin <sashal@...nel.org> writes:
>
>> So I have a proof of concept which during the build process creates
>> .apispec.h which are generated from kerneldoc and contain macros
>> identical to the ones in my RFC.
>>
>> Here's an example of sys_mlock() spec:
>
>So I'm getting ahead of the game, but I have to ask some questions...
>
>> /**
>>   * sys_mlock - Lock pages in memory
>>   * @start: Starting address of memory range to lock
>>   * @len: Length of memory range to lock in bytes
>>   *
>>   * Locks pages in the specified address range into RAM, preventing them from
>>   * being paged to swap. Requires CAP_IPC_LOCK capability or RLIMIT_MEMLOCK
>>   * resource limit.
>>   *
>>   * long-desc: Locks pages in the specified address range into RAM, preventing
>>   *   them from being paged to swap. Requires CAP_IPC_LOCK capability
>>   *   or RLIMIT_MEMLOCK resource limit.
>
>Why duplicate the long description?

Will fix.

>>   * context-flags: KAPI_CTX_PROCESS | KAPI_CTX_SLEEPABLE
>>   * param-type: start, KAPI_TYPE_UINT
>
>This is something I wondered before; rather than a bunch of lengthy
>KAPI_* symbols, why not just say __u64 (or some other familiar type)
>here?

I think it gets tricky when we got to more complex types. For example,
how do we represent a FD or a (struct sockaddr *)?

With macros, KAPI_TYPE_FD or KAPI_TYPE_SOCKADDR make sense, but
__sockaddr will be a bit confusing (I think).

>>   * param-flags: start, KAPI_PARAM_IN
>>   * param-constraint-type: start, KAPI_CONSTRAINT_NONE
>>   * param-constraint: start, Rounded down to page boundary
>>   * param-type: len, KAPI_TYPE_UINT
>>   * param-flags: len, KAPI_PARAM_IN
>>   * param-constraint-type: len, KAPI_CONSTRAINT_RANGE
>>   * param-range: len, 0, LONG_MAX
>>   * param-constraint: len, Rounded up to page boundary
>>   * return-type: KAPI_TYPE_INT
>>   * return-check-type: KAPI_RETURN_ERROR_CHECK
>>   * return-success: 0
>>   * error-code: -ENOMEM, ENOMEM, Address range issue,
>>   *   Some of the specified range is not mapped, has unmapped gaps,
>>   *   or the lock would cause the number of mapped regions to exceed the limit.
>>   * error-code: -EPERM, EPERM, Insufficient privileges,
>>   *   The caller is not privileged (no CAP_IPC_LOCK) and RLIMIT_MEMLOCK is 0.
>>   * error-code: -EINVAL, EINVAL, Address overflow,
>>   *   The result of the addition start+len was less than start (arithmetic overflow).
>>   * error-code: -EAGAIN, EAGAIN, Some or all memory could not be locked,
>>   *   Some or all of the specified address range could not be locked.
>>   * error-code: -EINTR, EINTR, Interrupted by signal,
>>   *   The operation was interrupted by a fatal signal before completion.
>>   * error-code: -EFAULT, EFAULT, Bad address,
>>   *   The specified address range contains invalid addresses that cannot be accessed.
>>   * since-version: 2.0
>>   * lock: mmap_lock, KAPI_LOCK_RWLOCK
>>   * lock-acquired: true
>>   * lock-released: true
>>   * lock-desc: Process memory map write lock
>>   * signal: FATAL
>>   * signal-direction: KAPI_SIGNAL_RECEIVE
>>   * signal-action: KAPI_SIGNAL_ACTION_RETURN
>>   * signal-condition: Fatal signal pending
>>   * signal-desc: Fatal signals (SIGKILL) can interrupt the operation at two points:
>>   *   when acquiring mmap_write_lock_killable() and during page population
>>   *   in __mm_populate(). Returns -EINTR. Non-fatal signals do NOT interrupt
>>   *   mlock - the operation continues even if SIGINT/SIGTERM are received.
>>   * signal-error: -EINTR
>>   * signal-timing: KAPI_SIGNAL_TIME_DURING
>>   * signal-priority: 0
>>   * signal-interruptible: yes
>>   * signal-state-req: KAPI_SIGNAL_STATE_RUNNING
>>   * examples: mlock(addr, 4096);  // Lock one page
>>   *   mlock(addr, len);   // Lock range of pages
>>   * notes: Memory locks do not stack - multiple calls on the same range can be
>>   *   undone by a single munlock. Locks are not inherited by child processes.
>>   *   Pages are locked on whole page boundaries. Commonly used by real-time
>>   *   applications to prevent page faults during time-critical operations.
>>   *   Also used for security to prevent sensitive data (e.g., cryptographic keys)
>>   *   from being written to swap. Note: locked pages may still be saved to
>>   *   swap during system suspend/hibernate.
>>   *
>>   *   Tagged addresses are automatically handled via untagged_addr(). The operation
>>   *   occurs in two phases: first VMAs are marked with VM_LOCKED, then pages are
>>   *   populated into memory. When checking RLIMIT_MEMLOCK, the kernel optimizes
>>   *   by recounting locked memory to avoid double-counting overlapping regions.
>>   * side-effect: KAPI_EFFECT_MODIFY_STATE | KAPI_EFFECT_ALLOC_MEMORY, process memory, Locks pages into physical memory, preventing swapping, reversible=yes
>
>I hope the really long lines starting here aren't the intended way to go...:)

I guess that we have two options around more complex blocks like these.

One, the longer lines you've pointed out. They are indeed long and
difficult to read, but they present a relatively static and "not too
interesting" information which users are likely to gloss over.

The other one would look something like:

side-effect: KAPI_EFFECT_MODIFY_STATE
side-effect-type: KAPI_EFFECT_MODIFY_STATE
side-effect-target: mm->locked_vm
side-effect-description: Increases process locked memory counter
side-effect-reversible: yes

Which isn't as long, but it occupies a bunch of vertical real estate
while not being too interesting for most of the readers.

>>   * side-effect: KAPI_EFFECT_MODIFY_STATE, mm->locked_vm, Increases process locked memory counter, reversible=yes
>>   * side-effect: KAPI_EFFECT_ALLOC_MEMORY, physical pages, May allocate and populate page table entries, condition=Pages not already present, reversible=yes
>>   * side-effect: KAPI_EFFECT_MODIFY_STATE | KAPI_EFFECT_ALLOC_MEMORY, page faults, Triggers page faults to bring pages into memory, condition=Pages not already resident
>>   * side-effect: KAPI_EFFECT_MODIFY_STATE, VMA splitting, May split existing VMAs at lock boundaries, condition=Lock range partially overlaps existing VMA
>>   * state-trans: memory pages, swappable, locked in RAM, Pages become non-swappable and pinned in physical memory
>>   * state-trans: VMA flags, unlocked, VM_LOCKED set, Virtual memory area marked as locked
>>   * capability: CAP_IPC_LOCK, KAPI_CAP_BYPASS_CHECK, CAP_IPC_LOCK capability
>>   * capability-allows: Lock unlimited amount of memory (no RLIMIT_MEMLOCK enforcement)
>>   * capability-without: Must respect RLIMIT_MEMLOCK resource limit
>>   * capability-condition: Checked when RLIMIT_MEMLOCK is 0 or locking would exceed limit
>>   * capability-priority: 0
>>   * constraint: RLIMIT_MEMLOCK Resource Limit, The RLIMIT_MEMLOCK soft resource limit specifies the maximum bytes of memory that may be locked into RAM. Unprivileged processes are restricted to this limit. CAP_IPC_LOCK capability allows bypassing this limit entirely. The limit is enforced per-process, not per-user.
>>   * constraint-expr: RLIMIT_MEMLOCK Resource Limit, locked_memory + request_size <= RLIMIT_MEMLOCK || CAP_IPC_LOCK
>>   * constraint: Memory Pressure and OOM, Locking large amounts of memory can cause system-wide memory pressure and potentially trigger the OOM killer. The kernel does not prevent locking memory that would destabilize the system.
>>   * constraint: Special Memory Areas, Some memory types cannot be locked or are silently skipped: VM_IO/VM_PFNMAP areas (device mappings) are skipped; Hugetlb pages are inherently pinned and skipped; DAX mappings are always present in memory and skipped; Secret memory (memfd_secret) mappings are skipped; VM_DROPPABLE memory cannot be locked and is skipped; Gate VMA (kernel entry point) is skipped; VM_LOCKED areas are already locked. These special areas are silently excluded without error.
>>   *
>>   * Context: Process context. May sleep. Takes mmap_lock for write.
>>   *
>>   * Return: 0 on success, negative error code on failure
>
>Both of these, of course, are much less informative versions of the data
>you have put up above; it would be nice to unify them somehow.

Ack

-- 
Thanks,
Sasha

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ