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Message-ID: <17fd8e7f-eefb-4c85-a086-fa32741c4d94@efficios.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2025 11:59:29 -0400
From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...nel.org>,
 Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>, Masami Hiramatsu
 <mhiramat@...nel.org>, Dennis Zhou <dennis@...nel.org>,
 Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>, Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux.com>,
 Martin Liu <liumartin@...gle.com>, David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>,
 christian.koenig@....com, Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@...ux.dev>,
 Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>, Sweet Tea Dorminy
 <sweettea@...gle.com>, Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@...cle.com>,
 "Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@...cle.com>,
 Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@...gle.com>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
 Christian Brauner <brauner@...nel.org>, Wei Yang
 <richard.weiyang@...il.com>, David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>,
 Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@...wei.com>, Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
 linux-mm@...ck.org, linux-trace-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
 Yu Zhao <yuzhao@...gle.com>, Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@...ux.dev>,
 Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@...il.com>, Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 2/2] mm: Fix OOM killer inaccuracy on large
 many-core systems

On 2025-07-03 11:20, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> Use hierarchical per-cpu counters for rss tracking to fix the per-mm RSS
> tracking which has become too inaccurate for OOM killer purposes on
> large many-core systems.
> 
> The following rss tracking issues were noted by Sweet Tea Dorminy [1],
> which lead to picking wrong tasks as OOM kill target:
> 
>    Recently, several internal services had an RSS usage regression as part of a
>    kernel upgrade. Previously, they were on a pre-6.2 kernel and were able to
>    read RSS statistics in a backup watchdog process to monitor and decide if
>    they'd overrun their memory budget. Now, however, a representative service
>    with five threads, expected to use about a hundred MB of memory, on a 250-cpu
>    machine had memory usage tens of megabytes different from the expected amount
>    -- this constituted a significant percentage of inaccuracy, causing the
>    watchdog to act.
> 
>    This was a result of f1a7941243c1 ("mm: convert mm's rss stats into
>    percpu_counter") [1].  Previously, the memory error was bounded by
>    64*nr_threads pages, a very livable megabyte. Now, however, as a result of
>    scheduler decisions moving the threads around the CPUs, the memory error could
>    be as large as a gigabyte.
> 
>    This is a really tremendous inaccuracy for any few-threaded program on a
>    large machine and impedes monitoring significantly. These stat counters are
>    also used to make OOM killing decisions, so this additional inaccuracy could
>    make a big difference in OOM situations -- either resulting in the wrong
>    process being killed, or in less memory being returned from an OOM-kill than
>    expected.
> 
> Here is a (possibly incomplete) list of the prior approaches that were
> used or proposed, along with their downside:
> 
> 1) Per-thread rss tracking: large error on many-thread processes.
> 
> 2) Per-CPU counters: up to 12% slower for short-lived processes and 9%
>     increased system time in make test workloads [1]. Moreover, the
>     inaccuracy increases with O(n^2) with the number of CPUs.
> 
> 3) Per-NUMA-node counters: requires atomics on fast-path (overhead),
>     error is high with systems that have lots of NUMA nodes (32 times
>     the number of NUMA nodes).
> 
> The approach proposed here is to replace this by the hierarchical
> per-cpu counters, which bounds the inaccuracy based on the system
> topology with O(N*logN).
> 
> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250331223516.7810-2-sweettea-kernel@dorminy.me/ # [1]
> Signed-off-by: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>
> Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
> Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...nel.org>
> Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
> Cc: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...nel.org>
> Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>
> Cc: Dennis Zhou <dennis@...nel.org>
> Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>
> Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux.com>
> Cc: Martin Liu <liumartin@...gle.com>
> Cc: David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>
> Cc: christian.koenig@....com
> Cc: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@...ux.dev>
> Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>
> Cc: Sweet Tea Dorminy <sweettea@...gle.com>
> Cc: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@...cle.com>
> Cc: "Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@...cle.com>
> Cc: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@...gle.com>
> Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>
> Cc: Christian Brauner <brauner@...nel.org>
> Cc: Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@...il.com>
> Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>
> Cc: Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@...wei.com>
> Cc: Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>
> Cc: linux-mm@...ck.org
> Cc: linux-trace-kernel@...r.kernel.org
> Cc: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@...gle.com>
> Cc: Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@...ux.dev>
> Cc: Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@...il.com>
> Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>
> ---
>   include/linux/mm.h          |  8 ++++----
>   include/linux/mm_types.h    |  4 ++--
>   include/trace/events/kmem.h |  2 +-
>   kernel/fork.c               | 31 +++++++++++++++++++++----------
>   4 files changed, 28 insertions(+), 17 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/include/linux/mm.h b/include/linux/mm.h
> index e51dba8398f7..79defe89aefa 100644
> --- a/include/linux/mm.h
> +++ b/include/linux/mm.h
> @@ -2705,28 +2705,28 @@ static inline bool get_user_page_fast_only(unsigned long addr,
>    */
>   static inline unsigned long get_mm_counter(struct mm_struct *mm, int member)
>   {
> -	return percpu_counter_read_positive(&mm->rss_stat[member]);
> +	return percpu_counter_tree_approximate_sum(&mm->rss_stat[member]);

This should be:

         int v = percpu_counter_tree_approximate_sum(&mm->rss_stat[member]);

         return v > 0 ? v : 0;

To make sure the value returned is positive, as expected by some callers.
Otherwise I get divide by 0 OOPS in task_scan_max after a while.

Thanks,

Mathieu

>   }
>   
>   void mm_trace_rss_stat(struct mm_struct *mm, int member);
>   
>   static inline void add_mm_counter(struct mm_struct *mm, int member, long value)
>   {
> -	percpu_counter_add(&mm->rss_stat[member], value);
> +	percpu_counter_tree_add(&mm->rss_stat[member], value);
>   
>   	mm_trace_rss_stat(mm, member);
>   }
>   
>   static inline void inc_mm_counter(struct mm_struct *mm, int member)
>   {
> -	percpu_counter_inc(&mm->rss_stat[member]);
> +	percpu_counter_tree_add(&mm->rss_stat[member], 1);
>   
>   	mm_trace_rss_stat(mm, member);
>   }
>   
>   static inline void dec_mm_counter(struct mm_struct *mm, int member)
>   {
> -	percpu_counter_dec(&mm->rss_stat[member]);
> +	percpu_counter_tree_add(&mm->rss_stat[member], -1);
>   
>   	mm_trace_rss_stat(mm, member);
>   }
> diff --git a/include/linux/mm_types.h b/include/linux/mm_types.h
> index 56d07edd01f9..85b15109106a 100644
> --- a/include/linux/mm_types.h
> +++ b/include/linux/mm_types.h
> @@ -18,7 +18,7 @@
>   #include <linux/page-flags-layout.h>
>   #include <linux/workqueue.h>
>   #include <linux/seqlock.h>
> -#include <linux/percpu_counter.h>
> +#include <linux/percpu_counter_tree.h>
>   #include <linux/types.h>
>   
>   #include <asm/mmu.h>
> @@ -1059,7 +1059,7 @@ struct mm_struct {
>   
>   		unsigned long saved_auxv[AT_VECTOR_SIZE]; /* for /proc/PID/auxv */
>   
> -		struct percpu_counter rss_stat[NR_MM_COUNTERS];
> +		struct percpu_counter_tree rss_stat[NR_MM_COUNTERS];
>   
>   		struct linux_binfmt *binfmt;
>   
> diff --git a/include/trace/events/kmem.h b/include/trace/events/kmem.h
> index f74925a6cf69..d6199b99c771 100644
> --- a/include/trace/events/kmem.h
> +++ b/include/trace/events/kmem.h
> @@ -477,7 +477,7 @@ TRACE_EVENT(rss_stat,
>   		__entry->mm_id = mm_ptr_to_hash(mm);
>   		__entry->curr = !!(current->mm == mm);
>   		__entry->member = member;
> -		__entry->size = (percpu_counter_sum_positive(&mm->rss_stat[member])
> +		__entry->size = (percpu_counter_tree_approximate_sum(&mm->rss_stat[member])
>   							    << PAGE_SHIFT);
>   	),
>   
> diff --git a/kernel/fork.c b/kernel/fork.c
> index 168681fc4b25..dd458adc5543 100644
> --- a/kernel/fork.c
> +++ b/kernel/fork.c
> @@ -129,6 +129,11 @@
>    */
>   #define MAX_THREADS FUTEX_TID_MASK
>   
> +/*
> + * Batch size of rss stat approximation
> + */
> +#define RSS_STAT_BATCH_SIZE	32
> +
>   /*
>    * Protected counters by write_lock_irq(&tasklist_lock)
>    */
> @@ -843,11 +848,10 @@ static void check_mm(struct mm_struct *mm)
>   			 "Please make sure 'struct resident_page_types[]' is updated as well");
>   
>   	for (i = 0; i < NR_MM_COUNTERS; i++) {
> -		long x = percpu_counter_sum(&mm->rss_stat[i]);
> -
> -		if (unlikely(x))
> -			pr_alert("BUG: Bad rss-counter state mm:%p type:%s val:%ld\n",
> -				 mm, resident_page_types[i], x);
> +		if (unlikely(percpu_counter_tree_precise_compare_value(&mm->rss_stat[i], 0) != 0))
> +			pr_alert("BUG: Bad rss-counter state mm:%p type:%s val:%d\n",
> +				 mm, resident_page_types[i],
> +				 percpu_counter_tree_precise_sum(&mm->rss_stat[i]));
>   	}
>   
>   	if (mm_pgtables_bytes(mm))
> @@ -930,6 +934,8 @@ static void cleanup_lazy_tlbs(struct mm_struct *mm)
>    */
>   void __mmdrop(struct mm_struct *mm)
>   {
> +	int i;
> +
>   	BUG_ON(mm == &init_mm);
>   	WARN_ON_ONCE(mm == current->mm);
>   
> @@ -945,8 +951,8 @@ void __mmdrop(struct mm_struct *mm)
>   	put_user_ns(mm->user_ns);
>   	mm_pasid_drop(mm);
>   	mm_destroy_cid(mm);
> -	percpu_counter_destroy_many(mm->rss_stat, NR_MM_COUNTERS);
> -
> +	for (i = 0; i < NR_MM_COUNTERS; i++)
> +		percpu_counter_tree_destroy(&mm->rss_stat[i]);
>   	free_mm(mm);
>   }
>   EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(__mmdrop);
> @@ -1285,6 +1291,8 @@ static void mmap_init_lock(struct mm_struct *mm)
>   static struct mm_struct *mm_init(struct mm_struct *mm, struct task_struct *p,
>   	struct user_namespace *user_ns)
>   {
> +	int i;
> +
>   	mt_init_flags(&mm->mm_mt, MM_MT_FLAGS);
>   	mt_set_external_lock(&mm->mm_mt, &mm->mmap_lock);
>   	atomic_set(&mm->mm_users, 1);
> @@ -1332,15 +1340,18 @@ static struct mm_struct *mm_init(struct mm_struct *mm, struct task_struct *p,
>   	if (mm_alloc_cid(mm, p))
>   		goto fail_cid;
>   
> -	if (percpu_counter_init_many(mm->rss_stat, 0, GFP_KERNEL_ACCOUNT,
> -				     NR_MM_COUNTERS))
> -		goto fail_pcpu;
> +	for (i = 0; i < NR_MM_COUNTERS; i++) {
> +		if (percpu_counter_tree_init(&mm->rss_stat[i], RSS_STAT_BATCH_SIZE, GFP_KERNEL_ACCOUNT))
> +			goto fail_pcpu;
> +	}
>   
>   	mm->user_ns = get_user_ns(user_ns);
>   	lru_gen_init_mm(mm);
>   	return mm;
>   
>   fail_pcpu:
> +	for (i--; i >= 0; i--)
> +		percpu_counter_tree_destroy(&mm->rss_stat[i]);
>   	mm_destroy_cid(mm);
>   fail_cid:
>   	destroy_context(mm);


-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
https://www.efficios.com

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