linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v3 06/22] perf: arm_pmuv3: Introduce method to partition the PMU

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Message-ID: <gsnty0syz4t0.fsf@coltonlewis-kvm.c.googlers.com>
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2025 22:38:35 +0000
From: Colton Lewis <coltonlewis@...gle.com>
To: Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@...ux.dev>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 06/22] perf: arm_pmuv3: Introduce method to partition
 the PMU

Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@...ux.dev> writes:

> On Mon, Jul 07, 2025 at 05:57:14PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2025 at 08:04:42PM +0000, Colton Lewis wrote:
>> > For PMUv3, the register field MDCR_EL2.HPMN partitiones the PMU
>> > counters into two ranges where counters 0..HPMN-1 are accessible by
>> > EL1 and, if allowed, EL0 while counters HPMN..N are only accessible by
>> > EL2.
>> >
>> > Create module parameter reserved_host_counters to reserve a number of
>> > counters for the host. This number is set at boot because the perf
>> > subsystem assumes the number of counters will not change after the PMU
>> > is probed.
>> >
>> > Introduce the function armv8pmu_partition() to modify the PMU driver's
>> > cntr_mask of available counters to exclude the counters being reserved
>> > for the guest and record reserved_guest_counters as the maximum
>> > allowable value for HPMN.
>> >
>> > Due to the difficulty this feature would create for the driver running
>> > at EL1 on the host, partitioning is only allowed in VHE mode. Working
>> > on nVHE mode would require a hypercall for every counter access in the
>> > driver because the counters reserved for the host by HPMN are only
>> > accessible to EL2.

>> It would be good if we could elaborate on this last point. When exactly
>> do we intend to configure HPMN (e.g. is that static, dynamic at
>> load/put, or dynamic at finer granularity)?

>> I ask becuase it's not immediately clear to me how this would break nVHE
>> without also breaking direct userspace access on VHE, unless we flip
>> HPMN dynamically at load/put, and this is only broken in some transient
>> windows on nVHE.

> Agree that KVM's HPMN can only take effect between vcpu_load() /
> vcpu_put().

> The changelog isn't correct regarding the complications of nVHE, though.
> In order to support a 'partitioned' PMU on nVHE we'd need to explicitly
> disable guest counters on every exit and reset HPMN to place all
> counters in the 'first range'. Unless someone has a use case for this
> stuff on nVHE I'm not too bothered by the VHE-only limitation.

I'll fix this.

>> >
>> > Signed-off-by: Colton Lewis <coltonlewis@...gle.com>
>> > ---
>> >  arch/arm/include/asm/arm_pmuv3.h   | 14 ++++++
>> >  arch/arm64/include/asm/arm_pmuv3.h |  5 ++
>> >  arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_pmu.h   |  6 +++
>> >  arch/arm64/kvm/Makefile            |  2 +-
>> >  arch/arm64/kvm/pmu-part.c          | 23 ++++++++++

>> Maybe I'll contradict Oliver and Marc here (and whatever they say
>> rules), but IMO it'd be nice to spell out "partition" rather than "part"
>> here for clarity.

> I'm not too big of a fan of the naming here either. I'd prefer something
> like "pmu-direct". Partitioning is just a side effect of how we're
> allocating counters currently and most of this implementation could be
> reused if we pass the entire PMU to the guest in the future.

Sure.

> With that being said -- Colton I'd focus on getting these patches in
> shape while we figure out what color we want it ;-)

> Thanks,
> Oliver

Trust me I'm working on it.