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Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2025 17:25:29 +0200
From: "Pankaj Raghav (Samsung)" <kernel@...kajraghav.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] add static PMD zero page support
On Tue, Jul 15, 2025 at 04:16:44PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 15.07.25 16:12, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 15, 2025 at 04:06:29PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > > I think at some point we discussed "when does the PMD-sized zeropage make
> > > *any* sense on these weird arch configs" (512MiB on arm64 64bit)
> > >
> > > No idea who wants to waste half a gig on that at runtime either.
> >
> > Yeah this is a problem we _really_ need to solve. But obviously somewhat out of
> > scope here.
> >
> > >
> > > But yeah, we should let the arch code opt in whether it wants it or not (in
> > > particular, maybe only on arm64 with CONFIG_PAGE_SIZE_4K)
> >
> > I don't think this should be an ARCH_HAS_xxx.
> >
> > Because that's saying 'this architecture has X', this isn't architecture
> > scope.
> >
> > I suppose PMDs may vary in terms of how huge they are regardless of page
> > table size actually.
> >
> > So maybe the best solution is a semantic one - just rename this to
> > ARCH_WANT_STATIC_PMD_ZERO_PAGE
> >
> > And then put the page size selector in the arch code.
> >
> > For example in arm64 we have:
> >
> > select ARCH_WANT_HUGE_PMD_SHARE if ARM64_4K_PAGES || (ARM64_16K_PAGES && !ARM64_VA_BITS_36)
> >
> > So doing something similar here like:
> >
> > select ARCH_WANT_STATIC_PMD_ZERO_PAGE if ARM64_4K_PAGES
> >
> > Would do thie job and sort everything out.
>
> Yes.
Actually I had something similar in one of my earlier versions[1] where we
can opt in from arch specific Kconfig with *WANT* instead *HAS*.
For starters, I will enable this only from x86. We can probably extend
this once we get the base patches up.
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20250522090243.758943-2-p.raghav@samsung.com/
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Pankaj
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