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Message-ID: <a2c3537a-8ddc-467f-a9f4-b4d413914914@rowland.harvard.edu>
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2025 10:48:08 -0400
From: Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>
To: Benjamin Tissoires <bentiss@...nel.org>
Cc: syzbot <syzbot+b63d677d63bcac06cf90@...kaller.appspotmail.com>,
	jikos@...nel.org, linux-input@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-usb@...r.kernel.org,
	syzkaller-bugs@...glegroups.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] HID: core: Reject report fields with a size or count of 0

On Sat, Jul 19, 2025 at 10:36:01AM +0200, Benjamin Tissoires wrote:
> On Jul 17 2025, Alan Stern wrote:
> > Testing by the syzbot fuzzer showed that the HID core gets a
> > shift-out-of-bounds exception when it tries to convert a 32-bit
> > quantity to a 0-bit quantity.  This is hardly an unexpected result,
> > but it means that we should not accept report fields that have a size
> > of zero bits.  Similarly, there's no reason to accept report fields
> > with a count of zero; either type of item is completely meaningless
> > since no information can be conveyed in zero bits.
> > 
> > Reject fields with a size or count of zero, and reject reports
> > containing such fields.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>
> > Reported-by: syzbot+b63d677d63bcac06cf90@...kaller.appspotmail.com
> > Closes: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-usb/68753a08.050a0220.33d347.0008.GAE@google.com/
> > Tested-by: syzbot+b63d677d63bcac06cf90@...kaller.appspotmail.com
> > Fixes: dde5845a529f ("[PATCH] Generic HID layer - code split")
> > Cc: stable@...r.kernel.org

> Sigh... I applied this one too quickly before going on holidays.
> 
> This breaks the hid testsuite:
> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/bentiss/hid/-/jobs/80805946
> 
> (yes, I should have run it before applying).
> 
> So basically, there are devices out there with a "broken" report size of
> 0, and this patch now entirely disables them.
> 
> That Saitek gamepad has the following (see tools/testing/selftests/hid/tests/test_gamepad.py):
>         0x95, 0x01,                    # ..Report Count (1)                  60
>         0x75, 0x00,                    # ..Report Size (0)                   62
>         0x81, 0x03,                    # ..Input (Cnst,Var,Abs)              64
> 
> So we'd need to disable the field, but not invalidate the entire report.
> 
> I'm glad I scheduled this one for the next cycle.
> 
> I'll try to get something next week.

So then would it be better to accept these report fields (perhaps with a 
warning) and instead, harden the core HID code so that it doesn't choke 
when it runs across one of them?

Alan Stern

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