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Message-ID: <5dffdbca-c576-489c-b84a-ec2747cfbc21@redhat.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2025 12:10:36 +0200
From: David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>
To: linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
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Subject: Re: [PATCH POC] prctl: extend PR_SET_THP_DISABLE to optionally
 exclude VM_HUGEPAGE

Two additions:

> 
> (E) Indicates "THP_enabled: 0" in /proc/pid/status only if THPs are not
>      disabled completely


As raised off-list, this should be "only if THPs are disabled completely"

> 
>      Only indicating that THPs are disabled when they are really disabled
>      completely, not only partially.
 > > The documented semantics in the man page for PR_SET_THP_DISABLE
> "is inherited by a child created via fork(2) and is preserved across
> execve(2)" is maintained. This behavior, for example, allows for
> disabling THPs for a workload through the launching process (e.g.,
> systemd where we fork() a helper process to then exec()).
> 
> There is currently not way to prevent that a process will not issue
> PR_SET_THP_DISABLE itself to re-enable THP. We could add a "seal" option
> to PR_SET_THP_DISABLE through another flag if ever required. The known
> users (such as redis) really use PR_SET_THP_DISABLE to disable THPs, so
> that is not added for now.

I don't think there is any user that would try re-enabling THPs through 
that interface. It's kind-of against the original purpose (man page): 
"Setting  this  flag  provides a method for disabling transparent huge 
pages for jobs where the code cannot be modified ..."

So if ever really required, one could investigate forbidding re-enabling 
once disabled. But that obviously needs more investigation.

(also, if a workload ever enables THPs through that mechanism, probably 
it is to blame)

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb


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