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Message-ID: <20250723080532.53ecc4f1@kernel.org>
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2025 08:05:32 -0700
From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>
Cc: Cindy Lu <lulu@...hat.com>, "K. Y. Srinivasan" <kys@...rosoft.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND] netvsc: transfer lower device max tso size

On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 14:00:47 +0800 Jason Wang wrote:
> > > But this fixes a real problem, otherwise nested VM performance will be
> > > broken due to the GSO software segmentation.  
> >
> > Perhaps, possibly, a migration plan can be devised, away from the
> > netvsc model, so we don't have to deal with nuggets of joy like:
> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/1752870014-28909-1-git-send-email-haiyangz@linux.microsoft.com/  
> 
> Btw, if I understand this correctly. This is for future development so
> it's not a blocker for this patch?

Not a blocker, I'm just giving an example of the netvsc auto-weirdness
being a source of tech debt and bugs. Commit d7501e076d859d is another
recent one off the top of my head. IIUC systemd-networkd is broadly
deployed now. It'd be great if there was some migration plan for moving
this sort of VM auto-bonding to user space (with the use of the common
bonding driver, not each hypervisor rolling its own).

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