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Message-ID: <2d4f0bb1f23f89e4e5bedf6346a6c21f8b6bb29b.camel@redhat.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2025 15:41:33 -0400
From: Lyude Paul <lyude@...hat.com>
To: Daniel Almeida <daniel.almeida@...labora.com>, Danilo Krummrich
	 <dakr@...nel.org>
Cc: nouveau@...ts.freedesktop.org, dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org, 
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 <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Partially revert "rust: drm: gem: Implement
 AlwaysRefCounted for all gem objects automatically"

a-ha, ok. I made a mistake here with misremembering where the compilation
issue I saw here really was.

It's not that multiple gem object implementations are triggering it, it's that
it immediately breaks compilation if any other type tries to do a blanket
implementation with AlwaysRefCounted like this.

Here's a properly compiling example with rvkms:

https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/lyudess/linux/-/commits/rvkms-slim

This builds fine because IntoGEMObject is the only one with a blanket
implementation of AlwaysRefCounted, and we implement AlwaysRefCounted using a
macro for refcounted Kms objects.

But if we apply this patch which adds the second blanket impl:

https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/lyudess/linux/-/commit/ec094d4fc209a7122b00168e7293f365fe7fc16c

Then compilation fails:

   ➜  nouveau-gsp git:(rvkms-slim) ✗ nice make -j20
     DESCEND objtool
     DESCEND bpf/resolve_btfids
     CALL    scripts/checksyscalls.sh
     INSTALL libsubcmd_headers
     INSTALL libsubcmd_headers
     RUSTC L rust/kernel.o
   warning: unused import: `pin_init`
     --> rust/kernel/drm/driver.rs:18:5
      |
   18 | use pin_init;
      |     ^^^^^^^^
      |
      = note: `#[warn(unused_imports)]` on by default
   
   warning: unused import: `prelude::*`
    --> rust/kernel/drm/kms/modes.rs:4:13
     |
   4 | use crate::{prelude::*, types::Opaque};
     |             ^^^^^^^^^^
   
   error[E0119]: conflicting implementations of trait `types::AlwaysRefCounted`
      --> rust/kernel/drm/kms.rs:504:1
       |
   504 | unsafe impl<T: RcModeObject> AlwaysRefCounted for T {
       | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ conflicting implementation
       |
      ::: rust/kernel/drm/gem/mod.rs:97:1
       |
   97  | unsafe impl<T: IntoGEMObject> AlwaysRefCounted for T {
       | ---------------------------------------------------- first implementation here
   
   warning: unused import: `Sealed`
    --> rust/kernel/drm/kms/vblank.rs:7:44
     |
   7 | use super::{crtc::*, ModeObject, modes::*, Sealed};
     |                                            ^^^^^^
   
   error: aborting due to 1 previous error; 3 warnings emitted
   
   For more information about this error, try `rustc --explain E0119`.
   make[2]: *** [rust/Makefile:538: rust/kernel.o] Error 1
   make[1]: *** [/home/lyudess/Projects/linux/worktrees/nouveau-gsp/Makefile:1280: prepare] Error 2
   make: *** [Makefile:248: __sub-make] Error 2

This is definitely part of the reason I didn't notice this problem until later
too. My understanding is that this is a result of rust's orphan rule, which
basically just disallows trait impls where it would be ambiguous which impl
applies to a specific type. Here, the issue is that there's nothing stopping a
type from implementing both RcModeObject and IntoGEMObject.

…ideally, I really wish rust's behavior here was simply "don't allow T to
implement multiple traits if said traits have multiple implementations of
another trait" - but it seems like that's been a discussion that the RFL folks
have already been having with rust upstream.

On Thu, 2025-07-24 at 20:13 -0300, Daniel Almeida wrote:
> 
> > On 24 Jul 2025, at 19:27, Danilo Krummrich <dakr@...nel.org> wrote:
> > 
> > On Thu Jul 24, 2025 at 11:06 PM CEST, Lyude Paul wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2025-07-24 at 22:03 +0200, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
> > > > On Thu Jul 24, 2025 at 9:15 PM CEST, Lyude Paul wrote:
> > > > > -// SAFETY: All gem objects are refcounted.
> > > > > -unsafe impl<T: IntoGEMObject> AlwaysRefCounted for T {
> > > > > -    fn inc_ref(&self) {
> > > > > -        // SAFETY: The existence of a shared reference guarantees that the refcount is non-zero.
> > > > > -        unsafe { bindings::drm_gem_object_get(self.as_raw()) };
> > > > > -    }
> > > > > -
> > > > > -    unsafe fn dec_ref(obj: NonNull<Self>) {
> > > > > -        // SAFETY: We either hold the only refcount on `obj`, or one of many - meaning that no one
> > > > > -        // else could possibly hold a mutable reference to `obj` and thus this immutable reference
> > > > > -        // is safe.
> > > > > -        let obj = unsafe { obj.as_ref() }.as_raw();
> > > > > -
> > > > > -        // SAFETY:
> > > > > -        // - The safety requirements guarantee that the refcount is non-zero.
> > > > > -        // - We hold no references to `obj` now, making it safe for us to potentially deallocate it.
> > > > > -        unsafe { bindings::drm_gem_object_put(obj) };
> > > > > -    }
> > > > > -}
> > > > 
> > > > IIUC, you'll add rust/kernel/drm/gem/shmem.rs with a new type shmem::Object that
> > > > implements IntoGEMObject, right?
> > > > 
> > > > If this is correct, I think that should work.
> > > 
> > > Do you mean you think the blanket implementation that we had would work, or
> > > that getting rid of it would work?
> > 
> > The former.
> > 
> > > Since the blanket implementation we have
> > > definitely doesn't compile on my machine once we add more then one
> > > IntoGEMObject impl. (before adding it, it works just fine)
> > 
> > Do you have a branch somewhere, where it doesn't compile?
> 
> Hi Lyude, I’m somewhat surprised to be honest. Your gem-shmem code works on
> tyr-next, which is currently on top of 6.16-rc2. What exactly doesn’t
> compile?
> 
> [0] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/panfrost/linux/-/tree/tyr-next?ref_type=heads
> 
> 
> 

-- 
Cheers,
 Lyude Paul (she/her)
 Software Engineer at Red Hat

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