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Message-ID: <CABi2SkVSjRV_zz0mhuRF3t3UJM_x=+gct1jbV=qd7eNMPBbvkQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2025 10:28:57 -0700
From: Jeff Xu <jeffxu@...omium.org>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@...cle.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, "Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@...cle.com>, 
	David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>, Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com>, 
	Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@...e.de>, linux-mm@...ck.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, 
	Kees Cook <kees@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/5] mm/mseal: update madvise() logic

Hi Lorenzo

On Fri, Jul 25, 2025 at 1:30 AM Lorenzo Stoakes
<lorenzo.stoakes@...cle.com> wrote:
>
> The madvise() logic is inexplicably performed in mm/mseal.c - this ought
> to be located in mm/madvise.c.
>
> Additionally can_modify_vma_madv() is inconsistently named and, in
> combination with is_ro_anon(), is very confusing logic.
>
> Put a static function in mm/madvise.c instead - can_madvise_modify() -
> that spells out exactly what's happening.  Also explicitly check for an
> anon VMA.
>
> Also add commentary to explain what's going on.
>
> Essentially - we disallow discarding of data in mseal()'d mappings in
> instances where the user couldn't otherwise write to that data.
>
> We retain the existing behaviour here regarding MAP_PRIVATE mappings of
> file-backed mappings, which entails some complexity - while this, strictly
> speaking - appears to violate mseal() semantics, it may interact badly with
> users which expect to be able to madvise(MADV_DONTNEED) .text mappings for
> instance.
>
> We may revisit this at a later date.
>
> No functional change intended.
>
> Signed-off-by: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@...cle.com>
> Reviewed-by: Liam R. Howlett <Liam.Howlett@...cle.com>
> Reviewed-by: Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@...e.de>
> Acked-by: David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>
> ---
>  mm/madvise.c | 71 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
>  mm/mseal.c   | 49 ------------------------------------
>  mm/vma.h     |  7 ------
>  3 files changed, 70 insertions(+), 57 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/mm/madvise.c b/mm/madvise.c
> index bb80fc5ea08f..7f9af2dbd044 100644
> --- a/mm/madvise.c
> +++ b/mm/madvise.c
> @@ -19,6 +19,7 @@
>  #include <linux/sched.h>
>  #include <linux/sched/mm.h>
>  #include <linux/mm_inline.h>
> +#include <linux/mmu_context.h>
>  #include <linux/string.h>
>  #include <linux/uio.h>
>  #include <linux/ksm.h>
> @@ -1256,6 +1257,74 @@ static long madvise_guard_remove(struct madvise_behavior *madv_behavior)
>                                &guard_remove_walk_ops, NULL);
>  }
>
> +#ifdef CONFIG_64BIT
> +/* Does the madvise operation result in discarding of mapped data? */
> +static bool is_discard(int behavior)
> +{
> +       switch (behavior) {
> +       case MADV_FREE:
> +       case MADV_DONTNEED:
> +       case MADV_DONTNEED_LOCKED:
> +       case MADV_REMOVE:
> +       case MADV_DONTFORK:
> +       case MADV_WIPEONFORK:
> +       case MADV_GUARD_INSTALL:
> +               return true;
> +       }
> +
> +       return false;
> +}
> +
> +/*
> + * We are restricted from madvise()'ing mseal()'d VMAs only in very particular
> + * circumstances - discarding of data from read-only anonymous SEALED mappings.
> + *
> + * This is because users cannot trivally discard data from these VMAs, and may
> + * only do so via an appropriate madvise() call.
> + */
> +static bool can_madvise_modify(struct madvise_behavior *madv_behavior)
> +{
> +       struct vm_area_struct *vma = madv_behavior->vma;
> +
> +       /* If the VMA isn't sealed we're good. */
> +       if (can_modify_vma(vma))
> +               return true;
> +
> +       /* For a sealed VMA, we only care about discard operations. */
> +       if (!is_discard(madv_behavior->behavior))
> +               return true;
> +
> +       /*
> +        * We explicitly permit all file-backed mappings, whether MAP_SHARED or
> +        * MAP_PRIVATE.
> +        *
> +        * The latter causes some complications. Because now, one can mmap()
> +        * read/write a MAP_PRIVATE mapping, write to it, then mprotect()
> +        * read-only, mseal() and a discard will be permitted.
> +        *
> +        * However, in order to avoid issues with potential use of madvise(...,
> +        * MADV_DONTNEED) of mseal()'d .text mappings we, for the time being,
> +        * permit this.
> +        */
> +       if (!vma_is_anonymous(vma))
> +               return true;
> +
> +       /* If the user could write to the mapping anyway, then this is fine. */
> +       if ((vma->vm_flags & VM_WRITE) &&
> +           arch_vma_access_permitted(vma, /* write= */ true,
> +                       /* execute= */ false, /* foreign= */ false))
> +               return true;
> +
> +       /* Otherwise, we are not permitted to perform this operation. */
> +       return false;
> +}
> +#else
> +static bool can_madvise_modify(struct madvise_behavior *madv_behavior)
> +{
> +       return true;
> +}
> +#endif
> +
>  /*
>   * Apply an madvise behavior to a region of a vma.  madvise_update_vma
>   * will handle splitting a vm area into separate areas, each area with its own
> @@ -1269,7 +1338,7 @@ static int madvise_vma_behavior(struct madvise_behavior *madv_behavior)
>         struct madvise_behavior_range *range = &madv_behavior->range;
>         int error;
>
> -       if (unlikely(!can_modify_vma_madv(madv_behavior->vma, behavior)))
> +       if (unlikely(!can_madvise_modify(madv_behavior)))
>                 return -EPERM;
>
>         switch (behavior) {
> diff --git a/mm/mseal.c b/mm/mseal.c
> index c27197ac04e8..1308e88ab184 100644
> --- a/mm/mseal.c
> +++ b/mm/mseal.c
> @@ -11,7 +11,6 @@
>  #include <linux/mman.h>
>  #include <linux/mm.h>
>  #include <linux/mm_inline.h>
> -#include <linux/mmu_context.h>
>  #include <linux/syscalls.h>
>  #include <linux/sched.h>
>  #include "internal.h"
> @@ -21,54 +20,6 @@ static inline void set_vma_sealed(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
>         vm_flags_set(vma, VM_SEALED);
>  }
>
> -static bool is_madv_discard(int behavior)
> -{
> -       switch (behavior) {
> -       case MADV_FREE:
> -       case MADV_DONTNEED:
> -       case MADV_DONTNEED_LOCKED:
> -       case MADV_REMOVE:
> -       case MADV_DONTFORK:
> -       case MADV_WIPEONFORK:
> -       case MADV_GUARD_INSTALL:
> -               return true;
> -       }
> -
> -       return false;
> -}
> -
> -static bool is_ro_anon(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
> -{
> -       /* check anonymous mapping. */
> -       if (vma->vm_file || vma->vm_flags & VM_SHARED)
> -               return false;

In this patch, the check for anonymous mapping are replaced with:

 if (!vma_is_anonymous(vma))
      return true;

vma_is_anonymous()  is implemented as following:
static inline bool vma_is_anonymous(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
{
   return !vma->vm_ops;
}

I'm curious to know if those two checks have the exact same scope.

The original intention is only file-backed mapping can allow
destructive madvise while sealed. I want to make sure that we don't
accidentally increase the scope.

Thanks and regards,
-Jeff



> -
> -       /*
> -        * check for non-writable:
> -        * PROT=RO or PKRU is not writeable.
> -        */
> -       if (!(vma->vm_flags & VM_WRITE) ||
> -               !arch_vma_access_permitted(vma, true, false, false))
> -               return true;
> -
> -       return false;
> -}
> -
> -/*
> - * Check if a vma is allowed to be modified by madvise.
> - */
> -bool can_modify_vma_madv(struct vm_area_struct *vma, int behavior)
> -{
> -       if (!is_madv_discard(behavior))
> -               return true;
> -
> -       if (unlikely(!can_modify_vma(vma) && is_ro_anon(vma)))
> -               return false;
> -
> -       /* Allow by default. */
> -       return true;
> -}
> -
>  static int mseal_fixup(struct vma_iterator *vmi, struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>                 struct vm_area_struct **prev, unsigned long start,
>                 unsigned long end, vm_flags_t newflags)
> diff --git a/mm/vma.h b/mm/vma.h
> index acdcc515c459..85db5e880fcc 100644
> --- a/mm/vma.h
> +++ b/mm/vma.h
> @@ -577,8 +577,6 @@ static inline bool can_modify_vma(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
>         return true;
>  }
>
> -bool can_modify_vma_madv(struct vm_area_struct *vma, int behavior);
> -
>  #else
>
>  static inline bool can_modify_vma(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
> @@ -586,11 +584,6 @@ static inline bool can_modify_vma(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
>         return true;
>  }
>
> -static inline bool can_modify_vma_madv(struct vm_area_struct *vma, int behavior)
> -{
> -       return true;
> -}
> -
>  #endif
>
>  #if defined(CONFIG_STACK_GROWSUP)
> --
> 2.50.1

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