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Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2025 13:22:11 +0530
From: Krishna Chaitanya Chundru <krishna.chundru@....qualcomm.com>
To: Manivannan Sadhasivam <mani@...nel.org>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@...nel.org>, Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@...gle.com>,
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        Jeff Johnson <jeff.johnson@....qualcomm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 02/11] PCI/bwctrl: Add support to scale bandwidth
 before & after link re-training



On 8/18/2025 12:39 PM, Manivannan Sadhasivam wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2025 at 09:25:03AM GMT, Krishna Chaitanya Chundru wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 8/12/2025 10:13 PM, Manivannan Sadhasivam wrote:
>>> On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 09:35:46AM GMT, Krishna Chaitanya Chundru wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/22/2025 4:33 PM, Krishna Chaitanya Chundru wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/12/2025 4:36 AM, Krishna Chaitanya Chundru wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/12/2025 3:06 AM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 09, 2025 at 04:21:23PM +0530, Krishna Chaitanya
>>>>>>> Chundru wrote:
>>>>>>>> If the driver wants to move to higher data rate/speed than
>>>>>>>> the current data
>>>>>>>> rate then the controller driver may need to change certain
>>>>>>>> votes so that
>>>>>>>> link may come up at requested data rate/speed like QCOM PCIe
>>>>>>>> controllers
>>>>>>>> need to change their RPMh (Resource Power Manager-hardened) state. Once
>>>>>>>> link retraining is done controller drivers needs to adjust their votes
>>>>>>>> based on the final data rate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Some controllers also may need to update their bandwidth voting like
>>>>>>>> ICC BW votings etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, add pre_link_speed_change() & post_link_speed_change() op to call
>>>>>>>> before & after the link re-train. There is no explicit
>>>>>>>> locking mechanisms
>>>>>>>> as these are called by a single client Endpoint driver.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In case of PCIe switch, if there is a request to change
>>>>>>>> target speed for a
>>>>>>>> downstream port then no need to call these function ops as these are
>>>>>>>> outside the scope of the controller drivers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +++ b/include/linux/pci.h
>>>>>>>> @@ -599,6 +599,24 @@ struct pci_host_bridge {
>>>>>>>>         void (*release_fn)(struct pci_host_bridge *);
>>>>>>>>         int (*enable_device)(struct pci_host_bridge *bridge,
>>>>>>>> struct pci_dev *dev);
>>>>>>>>         void (*disable_device)(struct pci_host_bridge *bridge,
>>>>>>>> struct pci_dev *dev);
>>>>>>>> +    /*
>>>>>>>> +     * Callback to the host bridge drivers to update ICC BW
>>>>>>>> votes, clock
>>>>>>>> +     * frequencies etc.. for the link re-train to come up
>>>>>>>> in targeted speed.
>>>>>>>> +     * These are intended to be called by devices directly
>>>>>>>> attached to the
>>>>>>>> +     * Root Port. These are called by a single client
>>>>>>>> Endpoint driver, so
>>>>>>>> +     * there is no need for explicit locking mechanisms.
>>>>>>>> +     */
>>>>>>>> +    int (*pre_link_speed_change)(struct pci_host_bridge *bridge,
>>>>>>>> +                     struct pci_dev *dev, int speed);
>>>>>>>> +    /*
>>>>>>>> +     * Callback to the host bridge drivers to adjust ICC BW
>>>>>>>> votes, clock
>>>>>>>> +     * frequencies etc.. to the updated speed after link
>>>>>>>> re-train. These
>>>>>>>> +     * are intended to be called by devices directly attached to the
>>>>>>>> +     * Root Port. These are called by a single client Endpoint driver,
>>>>>>>> +     * so there is no need for explicit locking mechanisms.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No need to repeat the entire comment.  s/.././
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> These pointers feel awfully specific for being in struct
>>>>>>> pci_host_bridge, since we only need them for a questionable QCOM
>>>>>>> controller.  I think this needs to be pushed down into qcom somehow as
>>>>>>> some kind of quirk.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Currently these are needed by QCOM controllers, but it may also needed
>>>>>> by other controllers may also need these for updating ICC votes, any
>>>>>> system level votes, clock frequencies etc.
>>>>>> QCOM controllers is also doing one extra step in these functions to
>>>>>> disable and enable ASPM only as it cannot link speed change support
>>>>>> with ASPM enabled.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Bjorn, can you check this.
>>>>>
>>>>> For QCOM devices we need to update the RPMh vote i.e a power source
>>>>> votes for the link to come up in required speed. and also we need
>>>>> to update interconnect votes also. This will be applicable for
>>>>> other vendors also.
>>>>>
>>>>> If this is not correct place I can add them in the pci_ops.
>>>> Bjorn,
>>>>
>>>> Can you please comment on this.
>>>>
>>>> Is this fine to move these to the pci_ops of the bridge.
>>>> Again these are not specific to QCOM, any controller driver which
>>>> needs to change their clock rates, ICC bw votes etc needs to have
>>>> these.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, moving to 'pci_ops' is terrible than having it in 'pci_host_bridge' IMO. If
>>> we want to get rid of these ops, we can introduce a quirk flag in
>>> 'pci_host_bridge' and when set, the bwctrl code can disable/enable ASPM
>>> before/after link retrain. This clearly states that the controller is quirky and
>>> we need to disable/enable ASPM.
>>>
>>> For setting OPP, you can have a separate callback in 'pci_host_bridge' that just
>>> allows setting OPP *after* retrain, like 'pci_host_bridge:link_change_notify()'.
>>> I don't think you really need to set OPP before retrain though. As even if you
>>> do it pre and post link retrain, there is still a small window where the link
>>> will operate without adequate vote.
>>>
>> Hi Mani,
>>
>> we need to update the OPP votes before link retrain, for example if
>> there is request  to change data rate from 5 GT/s to 8 GT/s on some
>> platforms we need to update RPMh votes from low_svs to NOM corner
>> without this clocks will not scale for data rates 8 GT/s and link
>> retrain will fail. For that reason we are trying to add pre and post
>> callbacks.
>>
> 
> If we are targetting OPP only, then can't we do direct OPP setting from the
> bwctrl driver itself? Or we also need to set ICC votes directly also (in the
> non-opp case)?
we are targeting only OPP, I can directly call OPP API's from bwctrl
driver.

As recommended, I will try to introduce a quirk flag in pci_host_bridge
to enable and disable ASPM before & after retrain. And will call OPP
API's in bwctrl driver itself.

- Krishna Chaitanya.
> 
> - Mani
> 

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