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Message-ID: <aKTGVvOb8PZ7mzVr@google.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2025 11:45:42 -0700
From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com>
To: Xin Li <xin@...or.com>
Cc: Chao Gao <chao.gao@...el.com>, kvm@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, 
	mlevitsk@...hat.com, rick.p.edgecombe@...el.com, weijiang.yang@...el.com, 
	Mathias Krause <minipli@...ecurity.net>, John Allen <john.allen@....com>, 
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, 
	Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>, x86@...nel.org, 
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 17/24] KVM: VMX: Set up interception for CET MSRs

On Tue, Aug 19, 2025, Xin Li wrote:
> On 8/19/2025 9:11 AM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 11, 2025, Chao Gao wrote:
> > > From: Yang Weijiang <weijiang.yang@...el.com>
> > > 
> > > Enable/disable CET MSRs interception per associated feature configuration.
> > > 
> > > Shadow Stack feature requires all CET MSRs passed through to guest to make
> > > it supported in user and supervisor mode
> > 
> > I doubt that SS _requires_ CET MSRs to be passed through.  IIRC, the actual
> > reason for passing through most of the MSRs is that they are managed via XSAVE,
> > i.e. _can't_ be intercepted without also intercepting XRSTOR.
> > 
> > > while IBT feature only depends on
> > > MSR_IA32_{U,S}_CETS_CET to enable user and supervisor IBT.
> > > 
> > > Note, this MSR design introduced an architectural limitation of SHSTK and
> > > IBT control for guest, i.e., when SHSTK is exposed, IBT is also available
> > > to guest from architectural perspective since IBT relies on subset of SHSTK
> > > relevant MSRs.
> > > 
> > > Suggested-by: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Yang Weijiang <weijiang.yang@...el.com>
> > > Tested-by: Mathias Krause <minipli@...ecurity.net>
> > > Tested-by: John Allen <john.allen@....com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Chao Gao <chao.gao@...el.com>
> > > ---
> > >   arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c | 20 ++++++++++++++++++++
> > >   1 file changed, 20 insertions(+)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c b/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c
> > > index bd572c8c7bc3..130ffbe7dc1a 100644
> > > --- a/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c
> > > +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c
> > > @@ -4088,6 +4088,8 @@ void pt_update_intercept_for_msr(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
> > >   void vmx_recalc_msr_intercepts(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
> > >   {
> > > +	bool set;
> > 
> > s/set/intercept
> > 
> 
> Maybe because you asked me to change "flag" to "set" when reviewing FRED
> patches, however "intercept" does sound better, and I just changed it :)

Ah crud.  I had a feeling I was flip-flopping.  I obviously don't have a strong
preference.

> > > +
> > >   	if (!cpu_has_vmx_msr_bitmap())
> > >   		return;
> > > @@ -4133,6 +4135,24 @@ void vmx_recalc_msr_intercepts(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
> > >   		vmx_set_intercept_for_msr(vcpu, MSR_IA32_FLUSH_CMD, MSR_TYPE_W,
> > >   					  !guest_cpu_cap_has(vcpu, X86_FEATURE_FLUSH_L1D));
> > > +	if (kvm_cpu_cap_has(X86_FEATURE_SHSTK)) {
> > > +		set = !guest_cpu_cap_has(vcpu, X86_FEATURE_SHSTK);
> > > +
> > > +		vmx_set_intercept_for_msr(vcpu, MSR_IA32_PL0_SSP, MSR_TYPE_RW, set);
> > > +		vmx_set_intercept_for_msr(vcpu, MSR_IA32_PL1_SSP, MSR_TYPE_RW, set);
> > > +		vmx_set_intercept_for_msr(vcpu, MSR_IA32_PL2_SSP, MSR_TYPE_RW, set);
> > > +		vmx_set_intercept_for_msr(vcpu, MSR_IA32_PL3_SSP, MSR_TYPE_RW, set);
> > > +		vmx_set_intercept_for_msr(vcpu, MSR_IA32_INT_SSP_TAB, MSR_TYPE_RW, set);
> > 
> > MSR_IA32_INT_SSP_TAB isn't managed via XSAVE, so why is it being passed through?
> 
> It's managed in VMCS host and guest areas, i.e. HOST_INTR_SSP_TABLE and
> GUEST_INTR_SSP_TABLE, if the "load CET" bits are set in both VM entry
> and exit controls.

Ah, "because it's essentially free".  Unless there's a true need to pass it through,
I think it makes sense to intercept.  Merging KVM's bitmap with vmcs12's bitmap
isn't completely free (though it's quite cheap).  More importantly, this is technically
wrong due to MSR_IA32_INT_SSP_TAB not existing if the vCPU doesn't have LM.  That's
obviously easy to solve, I just don't see the point.

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