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Message-ID: <2025-08-22-witty-worthy-wink-sitcom-T5L8wA@cyphar.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2025 23:25:11 +1000
From: Aleksa Sarai <cyphar@...har.com>
To: Rob Landley <rob@...dley.net>
Cc: Christian Brauner <brauner@...nel.org>, 
	Lichen Liu <lichliu@...hat.com>, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, 
	safinaskar@...omail.com, kexec@...ts.infradead.org, weilongchen@...wei.com, 
	linux-api@...r.kernel.org, zohar@...ux.ibm.com, stefanb@...ux.ibm.com, 
	initramfs@...r.kernel.org, corbet@....net, linux-doc@...r.kernel.org, 
	viro@...iv.linux.org.uk, jack@...e.cz
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] fs: Add 'rootfsflags' to set rootfs mount options

On 2025-08-21, Rob Landley <rob@...dley.net> wrote:
> P.S. It's a pity lkml.iu.edu and spinics.net are both down right now, but
> after vger.kernel.org deleted all reference to them I can't say I'm
> surprised. Neither lkml.org nor lore.kernel.org have an obvious threaded
> interface allowing you to find stuff without a keyword search, and

I'm not sure what issue you're gesturing to exactly, but if you have the
Message-ID you can link to it directly with
<https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/$MESSAGE_ID>. For instance, this email
will be available at
<https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/2025-08-22-witty-worthy-wink-sitcom-T5L8wA@cyphar.com>.

To be honest, I much prefer that to lkml.org's completely opaque
mappings based on arrival order and date (and in my experience it seems
to miss messages). The same goes for lkml.iu.edu, spinics and gmane.

One of the biggest losses when gmane disappeared was that all of the
URLs that referenced it were rendered unusable because the mapping from
their numbering to Message-IDs was not maintained. If lkml.org goes down
10 years from now, every reference to it will also be unusable, but
lore.kernel.org addresses will still be usable even if it goes down (you
can even search your local archives for the mails).

(It would be nice if more people spent a bit of time configuring their
Message-ID generation to be more friendly for this usecase -- mutt
changed their default Message-ID generation to be completely random
characters a few years ago, which made Message-IDs less recognisable
until folks adjusted their configs. Gmail is even worse, obviously.)

Also, lore.kernel.org has threading on the main page and on individual
thread pages? Maybe I don't understand what you're referring to?

> lore.kernel.org somehow manages not to list "linux-kernel" in its top level
> list of "inboxes" at all. The wagons are circled pretty tightly...

No it's definitely there, it's just labeled as "lkml" (they're sorted by
latest message timestamp so LKML will usually be near the top).

-- 
Aleksa Sarai
Senior Software Engineer (Containers)
SUSE Linux GmbH
https://www.cyphar.com/

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