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Message-ID: <aKg3l23hheuQ1dJH@linux.dev>
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2025 02:25:43 -0700
From: Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@...ux.dev>
To: Wei-Lin Chang <r09922117@...e.ntu.edu.tw>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org, kvmarm@...ts.linux.dev,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Marc Zyngier <maz@...nel.org>,
	Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@....com>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@....com>,
	Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@...wei.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,
	Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: arm64: nv: Allow shadow stage 2 read fault

Hi Wei-Lin,

You've been finding some good stuff with nested, thank you :)

On Fri, Aug 22, 2025 at 11:18:53AM +0800, Wei-Lin Chang wrote:
> I am able to trigger this error with a modified L1 KVM, but I do realize
> this requires L1 to be very strange (or even just wrong) so I understand
> if we don't want to handle this kind of edge case. On the other hand,
> could there also be other ways to trigger this that I have not thought
> of?

The architecture is pretty unambiguous here that the stage-2 can
represent a translation w/o read permission.

> Another thing is that this change lets L1 get away with not flushing the
> TLB, but TLBs are ephemeral so it's fine in this aspect, however I'm not
> sure if there are other considerations.

FEAT_ETS3 is an interesting one since it provides software with ordering
expectations around MMU faults (including permission faults) and updates
to the translation tables. For KVM's shadow stage-2 to comply we need to
re-walk the guest's stage-2 before injecting the fault at L1.

> ---
>  arch/arm64/kvm/mmu.c | 4 ++--
>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/arch/arm64/kvm/mmu.c b/arch/arm64/kvm/mmu.c
> index 1c78864767c5c..41017ca579b19 100644
> --- a/arch/arm64/kvm/mmu.c
> +++ b/arch/arm64/kvm/mmu.c
> @@ -1508,8 +1508,8 @@ static int user_mem_abort(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, phys_addr_t fault_ipa,
>  	exec_fault = kvm_vcpu_trap_is_exec_fault(vcpu);
>  	VM_BUG_ON(write_fault && exec_fault);
>  
> -	if (fault_is_perm && !write_fault && !exec_fault) {
> -		kvm_err("Unexpected L2 read permission error\n");
> +	if (fault_is_perm && !write_fault && !exec_fault && !nested) {
> +		kvm_err("Unexpected S2 read permission error\n");
>  		return -EFAULT;
>  	}

Hmm... I'm also willing to just delete this check altogether. The
likelihood of KVM creating a stage-2 PTE w/o read permission is rather
low.

Thanks,
Oliver

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