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Message-ID: <h6liptt1umfg8.fsf@dev-dsk-simonlie-1b-d602a7e1.eu-west-1.amazon.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2025 12:32:07 +0000
From: Simon Liebold <simonlie@...zon.de>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>
CC: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>,
	<x86@...nel.org>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, Andrew Morton
	<akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org>, Lorenzo Stoakes
	<lorenzo.stoakes@...cle.com>, Helge Deller <deller@....de>, "Liam R. Howlett"
	<Liam.Howlett@...cle.com>, Simon Liebold <lieboldsimonpaul@...il.com>,
	<linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/mm: lower MAP_32BIT begin to reduce heap collisions

Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com> writes:

> On 8/25/25 03:48, Simon Liebold wrote:
>> Commit 03475167fda5 ("x86: Increase brk randomness entropy for 64-bit
>> systems") increased the brk randomness from 32 MiB to 1 GiB. MAP_32BIT
>> looks between 1 GiB and 2 GiB for an unmapped area. Depending on the
>> randomization, a heap starting high enough and being big enough can use
>> up all the area that MAP_32BIT looks at, leading to allocation failures.
>
> Isn't that still a really unreasonably gigantic heap?
>
> Would you mind posting some actual /proc/$pid/maps output from one of
> the failure cases?

Hello Dave,

we are seeing heaps this large on real workloads. This is a Lua
application using LuaJit v2.0.

This is an excerpt from the output of one of the failure cases:

    00400000-00566000 r-xp 00000000 103:01 4476567               [...]/bin/httpd.orig
    00765000-0076b000 r--p 00165000 103:01 4476567               [...]/bin/httpd.orig
    0076b000-00772000 rw-p 0016b000 103:01 4476567               [...]/bin/httpd.orig
    00772000-00778000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0
    34a21000-35021000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0                      [heap]
    35021000-82ea7000 rw-p 00000000 00:00 0                      [heap]
    7fee7c0ba000-7fee7c11f000 r-xp 00000000 103:01 3836609       [...]/lib/libluajit-5.1.so
    7fee7c11f000-7fee7c31f000 ---p 00065000 103:01 3836609       [...]/lib/libluajit-5.1.so
    7fee7c31f000-7fee7c321000 r--p 00065000 103:01 3836609       [...]/lib/libluajit-5.1.so
    7fee7c321000-7fee7c322000 rw-p 00067000 103:01 3836609       [...]/lib/libluajit-5.1.so
    [Other maps at high addresses...]

Regards,

Simon Liebold



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