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Message-ID: <20250827121436.10795-1-zhongjinji@honor.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2025 20:14:36 +0800
From: zhongjinji <zhongjinji@...or.com>
To: <mhocko@...e.com>
CC: <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, <feng.han@...or.com>,
	<liam.howlett@...cle.com>, <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	<linux-mm@...ck.org>, <liulu.liu@...or.com>, <lorenzo.stoakes@...cle.com>,
	<rientjes@...gle.com>, <shakeel.butt@...ux.dev>, <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	<zhongjinji@...or.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/2] mm/oom_kill: Do not delay oom reaper when the victim is frozen

> On Mon 25-08-25 21:38:54, zhongjinji wrote:
> > The OOM reaper can quickly reap a process's memory when the system
> > encounters OOM, helping the system recover. If the victim process is
> > frozen and cannot be unfrozen in time, the reaper delayed by two seconds
> > will cause the system to fail to recover quickly from the OOM state.
> > 
> > When an OOM occurs, if the victim is not unfrozen, delaying the OOM reaper
> > will keep the system in a bad state for two seconds. Before scheduling the
> > oom_reaper task, check whether the victim is in a frozen state. If the
> > victim is frozen, do not delay the OOM reaper.
> 
> I do not think this changelog captures the essence of the change really
> well and it suggests that this might be a performance optimization. As I
> have explained on several occasions the oom reaper is not meant to be a
> performance optimization but rather a forward progress guarantee. I
> would suggest this wording instead.
> 
> "
> The oom reaper is a mechanism to guarantee a forward process during OOM
> situation when the oom victim cannot terminate on its own (e.g. being
> blocked in uninterruptible state or frozen by cgroup freezer). In order
> to give the victim some time to terminate properly the oom reaper is
> delayed in its invocation. This is particularly beneficial when the oom
> victim is holding robust futex resources as the anonymous memory tear
> down can break those.
> 
> On the other hand deliberately frozen tasks by the freezer cgroup will
> not wake up until they are thawed in the userspace and delay is
> effectively pointless. Therefore opt out from the delay for cgroup
> frozen oom victims.
> "

Thank you, I will update it.

> 
> Thanks!
> -- 
> Michal Hocko
> SUSE Labs

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