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Message-ID: <23872034-2b36-4a71-91b9-e599976902b6@kernel.org>
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2025 10:02:30 +0900
From: Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@...nel.org>
To: Yu Kuai <yukuai1@...weicloud.com>, axboe@...nel.dk, tj@...nel.org,
 josef@...icpanda.com, song@...nel.org, neil@...wn.name,
 akpm@...ux-foundation.org, hch@...radead.org, colyli@...nel.org,
 hare@...e.de, tieren@...as.com
Cc: linux-block@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
 cgroups@...r.kernel.org, linux-raid@...r.kernel.org, yukuai3@...wei.com,
 yi.zhang@...wei.com, yangerkun@...wei.com, johnny.chenyi@...wei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 09/10] block: fix disordered IO in the case
 recursive split

On 8/28/25 15:57, Yu Kuai wrote:
> From: Yu Kuai <yukuai3@...wei.com>
> 
> Currently, split bio will be chained to original bio, and original bio
> will be resubmitted to the tail of current->bio_list, waiting for
> split bio to be issued. However, if split bio get split again, the IO
> order will be messed up, for example, in raid456 IO will first be
> split by max_sector from md_submit_bio(), and then later be split
> again by chunksize for internal handling:
> 
> For example, assume max_sectors is 1M, and chunksize is 512k
> 
> 1) issue a 2M IO:
> 
> bio issuing: 0+2M
> current->bio_list: NULL
> 
> 2) md_submit_bio() split by max_sector:
> 
> bio issuing: 0+1M
> current->bio_list: 1M+1M
> 
> 3) chunk_aligned_read() split by chunksize:
> 
> bio issuing: 0+512k
> current->bio_list: 1M+1M -> 512k+512k
> 
> 4) after first bio issued, __submit_bio_noacct() will contuine issuing
> next bio:
> 
> bio issuing: 1M+1M
> current->bio_list: 512k+512k
> bio issued: 0+512k
> 
> 5) chunk_aligned_read() split by chunksize:
> 
> bio issuing: 1M+512k
> current->bio_list: 512k+512k -> 1536k+512k
> bio issued: 0+512k
> 
> 6) no split afterwards, finally the issue order is:
> 
> 0+512k -> 1M+512k -> 512k+512k -> 1536k+512k
> 
> This behaviour will cause large IO read on raid456 endup to be small
> discontinuous IO in underlying disks. Fix this problem by placing split
> bio to the head of current->bio_list.
> 
> Test script: test on 8 disk raid5 with 64k chunksize
> dd if=/dev/md0 of=/dev/null bs=4480k iflag=direct
> 
> Test results:
> Before this patch
> 1) iostat results:
> Device            r/s     rMB/s   rrqm/s  %rrqm r_await rareq-sz  aqu-sz  %util
> md0           52430.00   3276.87     0.00   0.00    0.62    64.00   32.60  80.10
> sd*           4487.00    409.00  2054.00  31.40    0.82    93.34    3.68  71.20
> 2) blktrace G stage:
>   8,0    0   486445    11.357392936   843  G   R 14071424 + 128 [dd]
>   8,0    0   486451    11.357466360   843  G   R 14071168 + 128 [dd]
>   8,0    0   486454    11.357515868   843  G   R 14071296 + 128 [dd]
>   8,0    0   486468    11.357968099   843  G   R 14072192 + 128 [dd]
>   8,0    0   486474    11.358031320   843  G   R 14071936 + 128 [dd]
>   8,0    0   486480    11.358096298   843  G   R 14071552 + 128 [dd]
>   8,0    0   486490    11.358303858   843  G   R 14071808 + 128 [dd]
> 3) io seek for sdx:
> Noted io seek is the result from blktrace D stage, statistic of:
> ABS((offset of next IO) - (offset + len of previous IO))
> 
> Read|Write seek
> cnt 55175, zero cnt 25079
>     >=(KB) .. <(KB)     : count       ratio |distribution                            |
>          0 .. 1         : 25079       45.5% |########################################|
>          1 .. 2         : 0            0.0% |                                        |
>          2 .. 4         : 0            0.0% |                                        |
>          4 .. 8         : 0            0.0% |                                        |
>          8 .. 16        : 0            0.0% |                                        |
>         16 .. 32        : 0            0.0% |                                        |
>         32 .. 64        : 12540       22.7% |#####################                   |
>         64 .. 128       : 2508         4.5% |#####                                   |
>        128 .. 256       : 0            0.0% |                                        |
>        256 .. 512       : 10032       18.2% |#################                       |
>        512 .. 1024      : 5016         9.1% |#########                               |
> 
> After this patch:
> 1) iostat results:
> Device            r/s     rMB/s   rrqm/s  %rrqm r_await rareq-sz  aqu-sz  %util
> md0           87965.00   5271.88     0.00   0.00    0.16    61.37   14.03  90.60
> sd*           6020.00    658.44  5117.00  45.95    0.44   112.00    2.68  86.50
> 2) blktrace G stage:
>   8,0    0   206296     5.354894072   664  G   R 7156992 + 128 [dd]
>   8,0    0   206305     5.355018179   664  G   R 7157248 + 128 [dd]
>   8,0    0   206316     5.355204438   664  G   R 7157504 + 128 [dd]
>   8,0    0   206319     5.355241048   664  G   R 7157760 + 128 [dd]
>   8,0    0   206333     5.355500923   664  G   R 7158016 + 128 [dd]
>   8,0    0   206344     5.355837806   664  G   R 7158272 + 128 [dd]
>   8,0    0   206353     5.355960395   664  G   R 7158528 + 128 [dd]
>   8,0    0   206357     5.356020772   664  G   R 7158784 + 128 [dd]
> 3) io seek for sdx
> Read|Write seek
> cnt 28644, zero cnt 21483
>     >=(KB) .. <(KB)     : count       ratio |distribution                            |
>          0 .. 1         : 21483       75.0% |########################################|
>          1 .. 2         : 0            0.0% |                                        |
>          2 .. 4         : 0            0.0% |                                        |
>          4 .. 8         : 0            0.0% |                                        |
>          8 .. 16        : 0            0.0% |                                        |
>         16 .. 32        : 0            0.0% |                                        |
>         32 .. 64        : 7161        25.0% |##############                          |
> 
> BTW, this looks like a long term problem from day one, and large
> sequential IO read is pretty common case like video playing.
> 
> And even with this patch, in this test case IO is merged to at most 128k
> is due to block layer plug limit BLK_PLUG_FLUSH_SIZE, increase such
> limit can get even better performance. However, we'll figure out how to do
> this properly later.
> 
> Fixes: d89d87965dcb ("When stacked block devices are in-use (e.g. md or dm), the recursive calls")
> Reported-by: Tie Ren <tieren@...as.com>
> Closes: https://lore.kernel.org/all/7dro5o7u5t64d6bgiansesjavxcuvkq5p2pok7dtwkav7b7ape@3isfr44b6352/
> Signed-off-by: Yu Kuai <yukuai3@...wei.com>
> ---
>  block/blk-core.c     | 21 ++++++++++++++-------
>  block/blk-throttle.c |  2 +-
>  block/blk.h          |  2 +-
>  3 files changed, 16 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/block/blk-core.c b/block/blk-core.c
> index 37836446f365..b643d3b1e9fe 100644
> --- a/block/blk-core.c
> +++ b/block/blk-core.c
> @@ -725,7 +725,7 @@ static void __submit_bio_noacct_mq(struct bio *bio)
>  	current->bio_list = NULL;
>  }
>  
> -void submit_bio_noacct_nocheck(struct bio *bio)
> +void submit_bio_noacct_nocheck(struct bio *bio, bool split)
>  {
>  	blk_cgroup_bio_start(bio);
>  	blkcg_bio_issue_init(bio);
> @@ -745,12 +745,16 @@ void submit_bio_noacct_nocheck(struct bio *bio)
>  	 * to collect a list of requests submited by a ->submit_bio method while
>  	 * it is active, and then process them after it returned.
>  	 */
> -	if (current->bio_list)
> -		bio_list_add(&current->bio_list[0], bio);
> -	else if (!bdev_test_flag(bio->bi_bdev, BD_HAS_SUBMIT_BIO))
> +	if (current->bio_list) {
> +		if (split)
> +			bio_list_add_head(&current->bio_list[0], bio);
> +		else
> +			bio_list_add(&current->bio_list[0], bio);

This really needs a comment clarifying why we do an add at tail instead of
keeping the original order with a add at head. I am also scared that this may
break sequential write ordering for zoned devices.

> +	} else if (!bdev_test_flag(bio->bi_bdev, BD_HAS_SUBMIT_BIO)) {
>  		__submit_bio_noacct_mq(bio);
> -	else
> +	} else {
>  		__submit_bio_noacct(bio);
> +	}
>  }



-- 
Damien Le Moal
Western Digital Research

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