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Message-ID: <836023cd8131e4fa63dc027a8fd6e47ec3d589ee.camel@mediatek.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2025 01:42:44 +0000
From: Xion Wang (王鑫) <Xion.Wang@...iatek.com>
To: "gregkh@...uxfoundation.org" <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
CC: "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mediatek@...ts.infradead.org" <linux-mediatek@...ts.infradead.org>,
	wsd_upstream <wsd_upstream@...iatek.com>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
	Huadian Liu (刘华典) <huadian.liu@...iatek.com>,
	"matthias.bgg@...il.com" <matthias.bgg@...il.com>, "arnd@...db.de"
	<arnd@...db.de>, AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
	<angelogioacchino.delregno@...labora.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] misc: Prevent double registration and deregistration
 of miscdevice

On Tue, 2025-08-26 at 14:54 +0200, gregkh@...uxfoundation.org wrote:
> External email : Please do not click links or open attachments until
> you have verified the sender or the content.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2025 at 12:09:01PM +0000, Xion Wang (王鑫) wrote:
> > On Tue, 2025-08-26 at 12:40 +0200, gregkh@...uxfoundation.org
> > wrote:
> > > External email : Please do not click links or open attachments
> > > until
> > > you have verified the sender or the content.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Aug 26, 2025 at 07:58:47AM +0000, Xion Wang (王鑫) wrote:
> > > > > Again, this shouldn't be something that any driver should hit
> > > > > as
> > > > > this
> > > > > usage is not in the kernel tree that I can see.  Attempting
> > > > > to
> > > > > re-register a device multiple times is normally never a good
> > > > > idea.
> > > > 
> > > > Thank you for your comments.
> > > > 
> > > > I am not the owner of the WiFi driver and do not have full
> > > > details
> > > > of
> > > > its internal logic. However, during internal integration and
> > > > stress
> > > > testing, we observed an issue where repeated registration and
> > > > deregistration of a misc device by the WiFi module led to
> > > > corruption of
> > > > the misc_list. While I cannot provide the exact reasoning
> > > > behind
> > > > the
> > > > WiFi driver's design, I wanted to report the problem and share
> > > > our
> > > > findings with the community in case similar patterns exist
> > > > elsewhere,
> > > > including in vendor or out-of-tree drivers.
> > > 
> > > We do not "harden" our internal apis for external drivers, we fix
> > > drivers to not do foolish things :)
> > > 
> > > Please fix your out-of-tree code, it should not be even touching
> > > the
> > > miscdev api, as that is not something a wifi driver should be
> > > interacting with.  Please use the correct one instead, and then
> > > you
> > > will
> > > not have this type of issue.
> > 
> > Thank you for your feedback.
> > 
> > I agree that the kernel should not be hardened for out-of-tree
> > drivers
> > misusing internal APIs. We will update our internal code to follow
> > best
> > practices and avoid improper use of the miscdevice API.
> > 
> > On a related note, the current 'WARN_ON(list_empty(&misc->list))'
> > check
> > in misc_deregister() does not catch any practical error conditions:
> > 
> > For statically allocated miscdevice structs, the list pointers are
> > zero-initialized, so list_empty() will return false, not true.
> > After list_del(), the pointers are set to LIST_POISON1/2, so
> > repeated
> > deregistration also fails to trigger the check.
> > 
> > Since this condition does not protect in-tree drivers or catch real
> > errors, would it be reasonable to remove it?
> 
> Yes, if it can never be hit, we should remove it.
> 
> > I can submit a patch if the community agrees.
> 
> That would be great, thank you!
> 

Hi,

Thank you for your previous feedback.

As suggested, I have submitted a new patch to remove the ineffective
WARN_ON() check in misc_deregister() in a separate email thread:

	
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250827024201.21407-1-xion.wang@mediatek.com/T/#t
	[PATCH 1/1] misc: remove ineffective WARN_ON() check from
misc_deregister()

Please let me know if you have any comments.

Thanks,
Xion Wang

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