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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2025 20:52:41 +0000
From: "Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@...el.com>
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Subject: RE: [RFC PATCH v1 1/5] x86/boot: Shift VMXON from KVM init to CPU
 startup phase

> > Since I think doing VMXON when bringing up CPU unconditionally is a
> > dramatic move at this stage, I was actually thinking we don't do VMXON
> > in CPUHP callback, but only do prepare things like sanity check and
> > VMXON region setup etc.  If anything fails, we refuse to online CPU,
> > or mark CPU as VMX not supported, whatever.
> 
> the whole point is to always vmxon -- and simplify all the complexity from doing
> this dynamic.
> So yes "dramatic" maybe but needed -- especially as things like TDX and TDX
> connect need vmxon to be enabled outside of KVM context.
> 
> 
> >
> > The core kernel then provides two APIs to do VMXON/VMXOFF
> > respectively, and KVM can use them.  The APIs needs to handle
> > concurrent requests from multiple users, though.  VMCLEAR could still
> > be in KVM since this is kinda KVM's internal on how to manage vCPUs.
> >
> > Does this make sense?
> 
> not to me -- the whole point is to not having this dynamic thing

Sure.  Fine to me to just always on. 

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